RE: The "Item Check Thread"

[KholdStare88]

The reverse can also happen. For example, I just got this hawk from Talay the other day:



At first glance to people who are not used to see high stat pets that are not rocks (including me), I would think it's hacked too. The thread is also useful for people to verify something is legit instead of reporting everything they see.

@kittikat: Your table is nice, but I still have some trouble identifying when ult armor is "too high" of a stat. For example, could they pop with all stats being 300-330? It's definitely within reason according to your table, but it would seem fishy to me. Another question is I never see trans/sup armor drop with below 100 "upgrades" so I'm wondering if there's a lower bound as well.

[Dr_Zaius]

Is there some kind of limit on how many stats can be over a certain amount too as people seem to talk about that a lot?

[KholdStare88]

I don't know about that...because I've seen giraffes that are almost perfect (300+ in all categories) but then again pets are unusual. Maybe we'll get some kind of answer about armor from some expert.

[Andy]

through dddk but **** if i know where to get that

DDDK is found here... It opens the map editor though

[kittikat]

@kittikat: Your table is nice, but I still have some trouble identifying when ult armor is "too high" of a stat. For example, could they pop with all stats being 300-330? It's definitely within reason according to your table, but it would seem fishy to me. Another question is I never see trans/sup armor drop with below 100 "upgrades" so I'm wondering if there's a lower bound as well.

Yes, there IS a low-end threshold.

For instance, Supremes can spawn with the minimum of 140 upgrades. Anything lower than that drops into Transcendent tier.
So say you have an item with Supreme stats (it falls within the 30k quality rating), but only has 130 levels, then it automatically gets bumped into the Transcendent tier, at which point the stats are far too great for that tier to spawn with.

And vice versa. Some items we've seen LOOK legit (super careful hackers), but when ran through the mathy, the stats are actually too low to BE in said tier.

[KholdStare88]

Wait so something with supreme stats but somehow has only 120 upgrades becomes trans even if its "rating" is supreme? @.@

[kittikat]

Wait so something with supreme stats but somehow has only 120 upgrades becomes trans even if its "rating" is supreme? @.@

Yep, there's a hard-"capped" Lowest Level Possible for each tier. And it works both ways:

You won't find a Supreme Helm with 10 upgrades. (Too few upgrade levels)

Nor will you find a Supreme Chest with 50's on all stats and 320 upgrades. (Quality Rating is too low)

[Hawsomeic]

Question about that chart on the first page, is that only applicable to armor? Because I have found tons of pets/weapons with 400 stats at mythical level, and even mythical items with -490 to stats. Trans as high as 492 on a pet is best I have gotten, which seems to be above the cap you can upgrade item stats to. It seems like determining if an item is legit is pretty tough since the range of stuff I personally see drop is astronomical, even within the same tier of item.

[tramderp]

Question about that chart on the first page, is that only applicable to armor? Because I have found tons of pets/weapons with 400 stats at mythical level, and even mythical items with -490 to stats. Trans as high as 492 on a pet is best I have gotten, which seems to be above the cap you can upgrade item stats to. It seems like determining if an item is legit is pretty tough since the range of stuff I personally see drop is astronomical, even within the same tier of item.

it was said in a later post that weapons and pets are funky, those stats are only for armor

on another note, do the negatives stay within the same range as that (just as negatives?)

[kittikat]

it was said in a later post that weapons and pets are funky, those stats are only for armor

on another note, do the negatives stay within the same range as that (just as negatives?)

Negatives can generally be all over the place, but tend to spend a majority of their time between -100 and -200.

Dingle explains it SO much better on the next page ^^