Nightmare Mode Imbalance

[Uniquey]

Everyone knows this game is crazy for ogre trains, but I didn't really get a full taste of it until Aquanos survival nightmare mode. Not only is there a mega rush of everything from all waves, but for some reason, wave 20 produces insane amounts of ogre trains. This wouldn't normally be a problem, but these ogres are just made out of titanium and have 40 million HP.

I've got good mythical gear, but the only people that can get past wave 20 are those who have hacked out supreme gear. Why make it a challenge for hackers and leave normal players like myself to suffer and hit a brick wall?

600mil mana cap dumb too...

[Sneezes2]

Thats rubbish, i can get to 24 in full myth, the ogre trains take time, just focus on each one as it comes (ps minions help too)

[DeltaDefender]

I can clear it and it definitely doesn't take hacked/supreme gear...

[zingfharn]

Obviously everyone who's ever cleared wave 20 is hacking. There are many, many many things I want to say right now, but I shall bite my tongue instead.

See that seahorse you just got for clearing wave 19? A good one of those does 10m DPS on the right character.

In addition. See that map you're running? That drops supremes, pre wave 20. Which can get yours stats to almost 4000.

All without hacking.

[Warmonger]

Tried it forst a first time today, got to wave 20. Then suddenly Ogres jumped up to 27M HP. Still, defenses could hold it nicely, but I died and it broke just before wave's end.

There was nothing extraordinary in this wave but the significant hp rise. The fun is the build uses almost no walls and DEWs roam freely, stopping only on minions. Can't see or control much, but it has nothing to do with game unbalance, just my tactics of choice :P
Loot is absurd, sold for 1B at the time I put it in my shop. Also found two upgrades, next time it will be easier.

[Vesper]

Obviously everyone who's ever cleared wave 20 is hacking. There are many, many many things I want to say right now, but I shall bite my tongue instead.

I feel the same way. You know how it goes though; if I can't do it than it's just not possible to do without cheating.

[LipsofAshes]

1º run i did on aquanos i got to wave 21 with 2k squire 1500+ rest , gaz traps + infernos + electric kill everything , also ogres just hit the walls and stay there , if you tell me fish wyverns kill your cristal its ok , but not about the ogres , also a monk with a seahorse can kill those 40k ogres in seconds .

Aquanos till wave 20 drops Trans and even supreme weapons. so i don't understand your point .

[Uniquey]

Obviously everyone who's ever cleared wave 20 is hacking. There are many, many many things I want to say right now, but I shall bite my tongue instead.

See that seahorse you just got for clearing wave 19? A good one of those does 10m DPS on the right character.

In addition. See that map you're running? That drops supremes, pre wave 20. Which can get yours stats to almost 4000.

All without hacking.

So much I want to reply with but I too will bite my tongue :P. I've run it 5 times and never any supreme pre wave 20 thats just not true. The only thing I can thing of why its so hard is because I dont have a tower huntress. I have a good seahorse that does 1mil DPS, but im a squirre tower builder so Im never gonna have a 10mil DPS pet.

[Eagle109]

Although i cannot get past wave 20, i have played up to there many times, found trans and some supremes before hand. Usually i loose, not due to 0gres, but sharken, which moves walls so an ogre gets trhough and 1 shots crystal

[Uniquey]

Although i cannot get past wave 20, i have played up to there many times, found trans and some supremes before hand. Usually i loose, not due to 0gres, but sharken, which moves walls so an ogre gets trhough and 1 shots crystal

Thats exactly how I loose, sharkens push through the middle. I've got to wave 20 before and had no trans throughout, just bad myth.