Highest Shai Hulud^

[wellhiya]

[QUOTE=Hellnel;482500]No, theres NO WAY to improve RANGE.
PS only makes your bullets come faster to the target.

What i meant to say is that as Shai Hulud's is MEDIUM range (as Crystal Tracker is)



Shai is medium range only if you have slow projectiles. The crystal trackers bullets would explode on their own once a certain distance is reached. A Shai's bullet will keep traveling untill it hits a wall. While in the tavern a shai won't target a dummy across the tavern but playing a map the shai will target an enemy at the same distance a blasticus will, it's just a matter of wether or not your bullets will reach in time to have an effect. Thus though a shai starts as a medium ranged weapon, it can be a long range weapon if you up the PS

[jliu]

I 100% agree about projectile speed.
I practiced on some garbage Shias and decided when I got a good one I would up it to 2000 projectile speed. Then I finally got a 98^ that started with 900 PS so I decided why not, no regrets and uped it to 2500. Now after extensive use I absolutely regret not making the PS higher. My next good one is going at least to 4000 maybe more

I'm kind of curious what your extensive use consists of.

Sure, it is annoying when your projectiles miss a moving target, but that doesn't seem like many scenarios where it's absolutely necessary. High DPS is great for for ogres, djinns, bosses (sharken?) and future bosses. Your towers take care of everything with low HP. For everything else I use Soul Focuser.

[kidrue]

Wait.. So what is the maximum upgrade for weapons on xbox?

[Deathdealer1877]

Blackreaper has one with 198 upgrades

And its useable for a lvl 78...its amazing to say the least.
But no hes not tradding it so dont ask.lol

[wellhiya]

I'm kind of curious what your extensive use consists of.

Sure, it is annoying when your projectiles miss a moving target, but that doesn't seem like many scenarios where it's absolutely necessary. High DPS is great for for ogres, djinns, bosses (sharken?) and future bosses. Your towers take care of everything with low HP. For everything else I use Soul Focuser.

Right it's not absolutely necessary, but it's nice to be able to shoot something across the map with a high dps weapon.
Why use a soul focuser (one of my favorite guns in the game) when you can use a shai that's three times stronger than a focuser will ever be?
Once you upgrade the PS on a shai it's the one stop gun for everything wether your shooting wyvrenns, spiders, stopping a sharken that got through from taking that last swing that'll destroy the crystal, or taking down a boss in record time. It does it all

[jliu]

It does it all

I still feel Soul Focuser is better in Moraggo from waves 5-11. Being able to shoot through walls and interrupting Djinns is pretty crucial.

[Hellnel]

[QUOTE=wellhiya;490877]

No, theres NO WAY to improve RANGE.
PS only makes your bullets come faster to the target.

What i meant to say is that as Shai Hulud's is MEDIUM range (as Crystal Tracker is)



Shai is medium range only if you have slow projectiles. The crystal trackers bullets would explode on their own once a certain distance is reached. A Shai's bullet will keep traveling untill it hits a wall. While in the tavern a shai won't target a dummy across the tavern but playing a map the shai will target an enemy at the same distance a blasticus will, it's just a matter of wether or not your bullets will reach in time to have an effect. Thus though a shai starts as a medium ranged weapon, it can be a long range weapon if you up the PS

One thing is to be able to hit the mob and other is to TARGET the mob.
For instance: You are shooting far away in one mob and another pass in front or near you... your target will fix on this mob and you'll loose the previous target.

Faster PS only makes you more effective for long distance targets but DO NOT improve your ability of TARGETING one mob, so, you still loosing shots but less than with a lower PS.


And about the best weapon for Moraggo, i agree with jliu, Soul Foccuser still being the best one.
I use mine until last wave then i change to a huge DPS weapon.

[DoideR]

I use my feet instead of a soul focuser. Oh, and the carpets.

You don't need a gun that shoots through walls if you can make it to the djinn yourself.

[gerryd]

Can you get shai huluds with 100+ upgrades for level 70 and 74 characters or is the highest upgrade for level 74 characters 51.

So far I can only get ones with 100+ upgrades that are locked for level 78 and 83 characters.

[wellhiya]

Every one is making good points and I don't disagree with anyone. I was just trying to say that if you have a high upgrade shai putting some of those ups into PS is way to make your shai more useful in more situations. Just want to make people aware of the option since a lot of newer players have a habit of dumping everything into damage without considering anything else.