How are people getting to Waves 20+ Survival

[AmagicalFishy]

Hey, folks.

Whenever I speak or read someone speaking of farming, there's always something along the lines of, "Oh, yeah. I've got these stats (lower than mine) and farm wave 25." Whenever I get to wave 20, I either get completely stomped or barely make it to wave 21. Everything before that is fairly easy.

Could my build be horrible or something? Is this a problem other people face, too? It seems very strange for it to work fine until the end, then suddenly be completely crushed; at the same time, I feel like looking up guies on exactly where to put what tower totally defeats the purpose of this game, so that's not for me.

Are there some fundamental game mechanics I'm missing?

[X_SaVioR_X]

Hey, folks.

Whenever I speak or read someone speaking of farming, there's always something along the lines of, "Oh, yeah. I've got these stats (lower than mine) and farm wave 25." Whenever I get to wave 20, I either get completely stomped or barely make it to wave 21. Everything before that is fairly easy.

Could my build be horrible or something? Is this a problem other people face, too? It seems very strange for it to work fine until the end, then suddenly be completely crushed; at the same time, I feel like looking up guies on exactly where to put what tower totally defeats the purpose of this game, so that's not for me.

Are there some fundamental game mechanics I'm missing?

i'm assuming you're on the pc? on the console, loot on the ground isn't very good.
it's probably the theory behind survival. "get to a certain wave then use that gear that you looted
to get to an even higher wave, etc etc."

[bobaluey69]

What kind of build are you using? I get crushed on wave 20+ as well. Also if you aren't using an EV character to boost your towers, then that is a big issue. The ogres are the main issue I lose on wave 20-21. They come very fast. How are you dying?

[dragonmaster0283]

What kind of build are you using? I get crushed on wave 20+ as well. Also if you aren't using an EV character to boost your towers, then that is a big issue. The ogres are the main issue I lose on wave 20-21. They come very fast. How are you dying?

Ogre's should never be the reason you loose. If your build is good, ogre's will just run up against the wall all day and not doing anything. If they are attacking your walls, then your towers are too close to the wall. A harpoon and a fireball tower holds amazing aggro on the ogre's (with the harpoon piercing the ogre's and attacking a Desummoning Djinn or Charging Sharken that are on Low Hp after sittign in a gas trap stunned and taking damage from an electric aura.

[MitchellW]

Getting past wave 20 is generally the hardest hurdle you'll face. It is normally a matter of your build not your stats. If you don't have a full roster of the 5 tower characters then you'll have a harder time.

Ideally you don't want your walls getting hit, like dragonmaster said, use towers to distract ogres from hitting your walls, and use combinations of towers that help you kill things before they smack your walls. Also need a clear line of sight on whereever sharken start their charge at your walls.

[bobaluey69]

Ogre's should never be the reason you loose. If your build is good, ogre's will just run up against the wall all day and not doing anything. If they are attacking your walls, then your towers are too close to the wall. A harpoon and a fireball tower holds amazing aggro on the ogre's (with the harpoon piercing the ogre's and attacking a Desummoning Djinn or Charging Sharken that are on Low Hp after sittign in a gas trap stunned and taking damage from an electric aura.

Maybe I am building my wall incorrectly because the ogres get around it for some reason. Earlier waves there is no issue, but on 20+ they get around it somehow. Not sure why.

[Forsakhan]

Its not sharken moving it? I find that often I need to dps or use tower boost to help kill off ogres in later waves if only to make sure the towers will target sharken when they come.

[dunimas]

It is definitely all about using the 5 different tower builders aspects together. Just using a squire or apprentice tower build will ALWAYS fail at high wives regardless of your stats. The monks auras and huntresses traps are just as important for late wave survival. Kandar seems to be the master of finding the right mix for survival, so I would look up some of his builds in the pc/console guide section. I think you'll find his builds enlightening as each DU serves to support the others.

I think once you give some of those builds whirl and begin to understand some of the nuances of builds you will find that getting to wave 25 isn't as hard as you might think. The guides section I mentioned is VASTLY underrated. If more players came to the forums in search of help through guides instead of whining about how unfair things are, I think you'd find a great deal more people reaching late waves (I'm not accusing you of whining, referring to other people in other threads).

[mayhem_zero]

Maybe I am building my wall incorrectly because the ogres get around it for some reason. Earlier waves there is no issue, but on 20+ they get around it somehow. Not sure why.

Is that on multiple maps, or only one in particular?

[mayhem_zero]

Hey, folks.

Whenever I speak or read someone speaking of farming, there's always something along the lines of, "Oh, yeah. I've got these stats (lower than mine) and farm wave 25." Whenever I get to wave 20, I either get completely stomped or barely make it to wave 21. Everything before that is fairly easy.

Could my build be horrible or something? Is this a problem other people face, too? It seems very strange for it to work fine until the end, then suddenly be completely crushed; at the same time, I feel like looking up guies on exactly where to put what tower totally defeats the purpose of this game, so that's not for me.

Are there some fundamental game mechanics I'm missing?

Post one of your builds using ddplanner.com so we can take a look. If your stats are good, a failed build normally means you need to improve it.