Console DLC News

["Bad Jue Jue" xbox]

By half you mean 100k of 900k* users right?

Last I heard this was total sales with most being pc so its a poor mans assumption 100k on console. Last we heard in november console was 50 of 500k sold.

Doesnt matter on any level when you make any part EXPENDABLE. Its not ok, rather shady if you want my opinion they waited till after the sales of the Lost Eternia Shards DLC1/PS3/M$ online sales to tell us when they have known for a while. Dont be condescending in saying that they never meant to "Mislead" us. Again I saw this coming and I am frustrated that a game so good (day one) can just get abandoned bc its more difficult. Im sorry the console isnt the "Easy Road". Oh well the little expendable just become more insignificant and the numbers become less why dont you post the stats in the pc side. A small victory for pc yet again...

[Isdrake]

DD is not a vacuum.

Did I ever mentioning that? oh gosh, how terrible wrong of me. Did not know that. Geez, I gotta get my facts right.

[BehindTimes]

LBP and MNR are both 1st party so that's a moot point. Your point remains valid though. Excluding the "RAM limitations" it all sounds like XBLA and Microsoft restrictions, especially the patching issue.

Well, I'm wondering more about DLC games that get weekly patch treatment versus an actual disc based game. What are the finances, etc. involved in the game? Really imho, a lot of this comes down to money. How much sold, how much is given to a developer, etc.

As for technical limitations, I wonder about what a more descriptive reply about what massive restructuring they're talking about for the console version which would need to be done when it comes to DLC. The OP brings this up along with patching restructuring. I can understand technical limitations though, which will keep some content off. I do find it quite silly though with responses not taking technical limitations into account.

[SepticTank]

hard to believe that this is a console limitation ordeal.. as many games before had incorporated new characters into their games on console. Not to mention, the character DLC WAS planned before the game release, as the secret room in the tavern proves as well as on pc, the characters being shadowed figures in the character select screen. If those techs have the time to set this up for pc, they had time to set it up for console.

I at one time would have appreciated the communication aspect of this post, relaying console related news, however the extensive amount of time we had to wait before being told that it wasn't planned for console, and the development team knowing this since the beginning is just confirmation of how much Trendy seriously doesn't know the importance of customer relations. So, theirfore, i am one console player who cannot say thank you for even this teeny aspect (finally communication) of this post.

You got a sale from this player on part 1 of the eternia shards dlc, but will not see for parts 2, 3, and 4. I spent lots of time on this game and it was worth 15 dollars easily in core gameplay (even with the bugs and horrible implementation of a "survival" mode.) The new characters would have been much more worthwhile then the eternia shards tho.

You won't see me on here until after Tales of Graces F, coming out on march 13th, is beaten. I will hop on to see if anything changes regarding the heros at that time.

good luck keeping a console fanbase with this news

[classic22]

If DD was a Vacuum, it wouldn't be an analogy. You might think it's a poor analogy, but that doesn't make it trivial. That just means it's not applicable, erroneous, or illogical. Of course you're thinking that, doesn't mean it's true, it would help if you explained what you think is wrong with the analogy.

What? If DD was a vacuum? Can you miss my point anymore than what you did?

When you bought DD for the xbox or playstation, you weren't paying to continue development of DD for console, you paid for the development of more PC content.

You have to be kidding? Are you serious?

When you payed for the game you payed for a product which you received and used. I can not believe the ridiculousness of that part of your post. No offense.

By half you mean 100k of 900k* users right?

Last I heard this was total sales with most being pc so its a poor mans assumption 100k on console. Last we heard in november console was 50 of 500k sold.

Way to miss the point, champ. I guess it's ok for you now isn't it? You act like console players who the majority payed full price aren't equally as important as the $2 jobs that make up the PC community.

[Shadow_Felix]

I'm going to sound like a complete jerk right now but after reading so many posts i have noticed that many people are completly acting like idiots. The average iQ is around 100 percent yet most are still acting like far below average. i think that some of you need to cut slack to the actual people who fought for you. Think about it they even stated in their main message that it took a while to rule us out. I'm a console play with a actual business sense and i can completly see their benefit to what they are saying. Mabye in some time they will release their second hit and be able to supply more incoming benefits. I for one am actually proud that these people Trendy in some sense know what it is to make sacrifices for the good of people but also know what to do to keep them a float.
Also for the people who talked about the lawsuit was in the complete wrong. Think about it did you sign anything. THey never entered a verbal agreement with any of us. They did everything for you for the better ment for us.
Wake up from this dellusional world that you live in. Because the world doesn't revolve around any single person and this is coming from a complete narsisus.
Thank you trendy for all of you support that you have been giving to us. Those console events were a great idea and fun eventhough i only got into one. I hope in the new future i could gladly work for a company that has some selfrespect and intelligence that they know what is going on.
If you would like to argue against some things i said i will gladly take the time in my PM to answer and ?'s you have. Also i will gladly take that time and explain why these are my views.


Good luck Classic and Finally on your incredible journey and your wars that you will face entering these people who don't understand research.

[BehindTimes]

hard to believe that this is a console limitation ordeal.. as many games before had incorporated new characters into their games on console. Not to mention, the character DLC WAS planned before the game release, as the secret room in the tavern proves as well as on pc, the characters being shadowed figures in the character select screen. If those techs have the time to set this up for pc, they had time to set it up for console.

I at one time would have appreciated the communication aspect of this post, relaying console related news, however the extensive amount of time we had to wait before being told that it wasn't planned for console, and the development team knowing this since the beginning is just confirmation of how much Trendy seriously doesn't know the importance of customer relations. So, theirfore, i am one console player who cannot say thank you for even this teeny aspect (finally communication) of this post.

You got a sale from this player on part 1 of the eternia shards dlc, but will not see for parts 2, 3, and 4. I spent lots of time on this game and it was worth 15 dollars easily in core gameplay (even with the bugs and horrible implementation of a "survival" mode.) The new characters would have been much more worthwhile then the eternia shards tho.

You won't see me on here until after Tales of Graces F, coming out on march 13th, is beaten. I will hop on to see if anything changes regarding the heros at that time.

good luck keeping a console fanbase with this news

Why would it be hard to believe that there isn't some console limitations?

First off, I'll admit I'm more of a PC gamer than a console gamer, albeit I consider myself a gamer first before going into any classifications. I own Dungeon Defenders for both the PC and XBox 360, albeit due to the overwhelming amount of cheating, I regret getting it for the XBox rather than the PS3. I enjoyed it on the PC, but due to knowing more people who play this on the XBox, I repurchased it to play it there. I also admit I have a fairly high end computer, so I really can't begin to comprehend what several other people experience with slowdowns, etc.

To the best of my knowledge, the XBox Live service has a 2 GB limitation. Immediately this would present a problem as DD on the PC is almost 3 GB in size. But, I assume you could shrink it by a large scale reduction in multimedia quality (textures, models, video, audio, etc.).

RAM is obviously a limiting factor. Play a game such as Dragon Age Origins on the PC versus the console. On the console, the battles come in waves. On the PC, all the enemies come at once. That's closer to a Tower Defense Game such as DD. Yes, it works on the consoles, but when I switch back to my PC, I do tend to notice how much smoother the game runs, especially in more hectic scenes.

New characters even have their own logistical problems. How do you treat gamers who don't have those characters? Some games just don't allow mixtures of non DLC with DLC, and some games such as Castlevania: Harmony of Despair, have default place holders, but it still takes away from the experience.

Now, I understand the next paragraph will be seen as flamebait, but I don't really intend it to be. Being mainly a PC gamer, I can sympathize with the situation of being treated as a second class citizen in terms of the game, but I can't sympthasize with the community on the issue. No offense, but PC gamers have often had to deal with such issues that are being discussed above. (And previous posters bringing up Call of Duty in previous posts is hardly the ideal game for a comparison on fairness.)

I guess I just fall into the category of would it really have been such a big deal had the console community been unaware? I certainly agree though that more transparency and communication was needed.

[MuramasaKuroga]

Guys listen, I am just as disappointed as everyone else. But quiting the game and not buying the confirmed additional DLC on consoles will only validate the developers choice to ignore consoles. If you want more content on consoles, you should continue to buy console DLC. Big console sales on DLC will likely convinvce Trendy that they should invest more into consoles and develop more content for consoles.

The problem is, I've seen most people say the Eternia Shards DLC is horrible. I don't like Mistymire one bit. Those spiders take away any possible enjoyment from that map for me. Spiders web should slow you down to maybe 50%, but trying to kill an Ogre when I'm basically at a crawl isn't fun. I would like to support them, if I felt it was worth it. I'm not just going to buy DLC I don't care about just to support them, though. That's a bit silly. What I really wanted was new classes, Nightmare mode, and super loot.

[CKGxJAY]

The problem is, I've seen most people say the Eternia Shards DLC is horrible. I don't like Mistymire one bit. Those spiders take away any possible enjoyment from that map for me. Spiders web should slow you down to maybe 50%, but trying to kill an Ogre when I'm basically at a crawl isn't fun. I would like to support them, if I felt it was worth it. I'm not just going to buy DLC I don't care about just to support them, though. That's a bit silly. What I really wanted was new classes, Nightmare mode, and super loot.

I played the dlc and it made the game fun again it was worth buying. poeple are just mad because there not getting everything they wanted they just cant be happy wiht something little. atleast they gave us something instead of nothing.

[I DK 420 I]

I played the dlc and it made the game fun again it was worth buying. poeple are just mad because there not getting everything they wanted they just cant be happy wiht something little. atleast they gave us something instead of nothing.

DLC 1 is not worth buying until they patch it. Challenge items disappear and the current items aren't even the ones that are suppose to drop... So honestly, no i can't say it's better then nothing.