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ElderLuck
06-14-2012, 10:45 AM
Ive been trying to figure out a way to beat it faster than 2hours 30 minutes mostly a estimate time but how long it may take sometimes. what is your time and is there any way to speed it up or is that basically the mobs themselves?

wellhiya
06-14-2012, 10:50 AM
Haven't taken note of the times but playing on insane, the mobs pour out a lot faster.

Hitman1105
06-14-2012, 10:59 AM
Here's my two cents. My runs normally take me around 3 hours.

Difficulty makes a difference. As stated above, higher difficulty = mobs walk much faster to their death.

Placement of towers. Obviously, the farther back your towers are, the more time it'll take to kill the mobs.

Strength of towers. Pretty much same thing as placement. This probably won't account for much of a difference, though.

Time spent repairing during the build phase (on Hard difficulty or below). This is obvious.

No. of players/AFK controllers. Again, obvious.

HecFloW
06-14-2012, 11:07 AM
1 hour 50 minutes, only reapair each 3 waves until the 15 wave, reapair each 2 waves

ElderLuck
06-14-2012, 11:13 AM
I ve just tried(or I am trying rather) doing what you stated in a sense HecFlow. I am waiting to see my finish time right now. I have about 4 more waves. The real problem is I need to figure out a way to tame the final wave ogre with two characters. My idea is to upgrade the blockades to level 2 then save the rest of the upgrade for when he comes out and if he starts hitting them use the upgrades to repair. I havent tried it yet because I want my sure giraffe daily today since I probably wont play much today but if I get on later I might try it and share my results unless someone else figured out a better way to get 2 giraffes maybe even 3 or 4 with afks. lol I also subbed some auras for strength drains, I dont know if its stupid or not but it seems to work for the most part.

I even wait at the top of the map to repair that side 1st because the other side is closer to the crystals. so as soon as the wave ends I am ready to bolt across the map and repair the other side. and also at 110/xxxx(Wave) I look for the ogres to boost turrets with huntress guardians,I use to use the apprentice but I am testing the firing rate boost vs. Damage boost. Its been working out so I suppose but solo.

Hitman1105
06-14-2012, 11:16 AM
I ve just tried(or I am trying rather) doing what you stated in a sense HecFlow. I am waiting to see my finish time right now. I have about 4 more waves. The real problem is I need to figure out a way to tame the final wave ogre with two characters. My idea is to upgrade the blockades to level 2 then save the rest of the upgrade for when he comes out and if he starts hitting them use the upgrades to repair. I havent tried it yet because I want my sure giraffe daily today since I probably wont play much today but if I get on later I might try it and share my results unless someone else figured out a better way to get 2 giraffes maybe even 3 or 4 with afks. lol I also subbed some auras for strength drains, I dont know if its stupid or not but it seems to work for the most part.

You were doing Pure Strat without Strength Drains?

ElderLuck
06-14-2012, 11:36 AM
The initial set up I got off youtube didnt use them at all and it was working but I decided to switch it up.

commandandco
06-14-2012, 11:53 AM
being greedy tends to lose my run on the last round...

The only way i could actually throw in a second controller and get 2 is if i took a guess at the side the ogre would spawn and throw in more defences,

1 in 4 chance of choosing correct, my guess would be a fail everytime!

by the way took me about 3 hours plus on medium, yet a little less on hard so i guess the moving ability of the enemies really does make a difference!

ElderLuck
06-14-2012, 12:11 PM
My normal time is about 2:30:45 - 2:42:xx depending on if i am paying attention or not. So on the last wave I sold one gas trap and put a Strength drain somewhere I needed it to be and brought in my second character because I was feeling gutsy. And it went according to my plan and we killed it thus earning two giraffes. And We even saved time on my normal record the final time was 2:09:02 on hard pure Strat. so I think I figured out a way to get win but also I normally never brought in two characters doing this until today which is weird I guess I could have saved more time on the final waves if I didnt bring in a afk to be greedy but 2 giraffes and kairi's in one run isnt bad its like 4 hours of work complied into 2 hours of easiness. So 2 hours is pretty close now I am pretty sure if I get a better monk weapon I could save time by not healing auras in the later waves. I just would like to get it down to 2 hours flat or less than 2 hours. and I ve mostly did this on hard difficulty not on insane. And a few times on medium when I 1st found this set up like 3 weeks ago but I have progressed since then saving about 21-30 something minutes with this new way to set up and repair.

The longest its taken me one time was about 3 hours and 42 minutes, but I would fall asleep inbetween waves. So it wasted time ideally. If there was a way to get it to 1 hour and 30 minutes or even 1 hour 45 minutes that would be cool. I am going to try to figure out a way. And my guardians I use could have better boosting stats so Ill see what happens when I replace them and if the out come is faster or not.

eyoeyoeyo
06-14-2012, 12:17 PM
At each door I put 3 harpoons, 1 magic blockade in front of harpoons, Bouncer blockade, slow aura, electric aura and a spike trap.. Placement is everything.. But yah I have all that setup about 5-10 feet away from spawn points depending wich spawn point it is.. And then put 1 harpoon and 1 slow at each wyvern spawn point.. The setup works amazingly well for hard and is crazy easy.. I beat it everytime and I always have 4 controllers out for wave 25 .. And yah final wave is be ready to find the ogre as fast as possible and just start the upgrade everytime bouncer hits half health.. Works everytime for me.. I've never tried this build on insane.. I'm guessing insane requires a better setup that involves strength drains or use my same build but with crazy powerful towers.

I usually will kill the ogre then switch to tv for 5-10 minutes then switch back , heal stuff, start the wave.. Kill ogre switch back to tv.. It's less boring that way.. Every once ina blue moon the electric will go down at the very very very end of a level if I'm doin the whole tv watching thing but that's not any problem at all.

So yah 4 kairis and 4 giraffes... It's realy annoying when u get 4 kairis that suuuuuck .. And then I'm all, o'well let's see what giraffes I get.. And then there all 4 are under 40 lvls... I've done this about 20 times and best kairi I got was 76 and best girrafe 39... Such a pissoff

ElderLuck
06-14-2012, 12:52 PM
I actually have a feature on my tv where I can watch tv and play the game at the same time or play my wii or n64 while the wave completes itself.I was fortunate on when the ogre arrived he just sat at the defenses and didnt even attack for the final wave which was pretty helpful or progress in my final fantasy which Ive been procrastinating on lol.I would need to see a lay out from dd planner to understand better ur set i might run it with that set up.

eyoeyoeyo
06-14-2012, 12:57 PM
I can invite u and u can hop in n see my setup if you'd like... I'm actualy running one right now

ElderLuck
06-14-2012, 01:31 PM
I can invite u and u can hop in n see my setup if you'd like... I'm actualy running one right nowwhen will you be doing another demonstration? right now is a bad time for me.

eyoeyoeyo
06-14-2012, 01:37 PM
Well I would make a dd planner thing for you but I have no clue how.. Ummmm how's this.. Next time u wanna do a giraffe run message me on psn ( same as my name on here) and I'll build for you and then back out.. Cuz then you will be playing on the level the whole time and give u time to remember how everything's placed.. Just choose misty on hard starting wave 8 then invite

ElderLuck
06-14-2012, 01:41 PM
ok.Sure.

paintolar
06-14-2012, 04:49 PM
If you dont care about the kiaris and just want giraffes... Heres what ive been doing (i average one 74+req per run), set to easy, turn infinate build time off, set 1 harpoon at each wyvern spawn, 1 SnD and 2 harpoons at each spawn. 2nd wave add 2 more harpoons to each spawn. Add 3 more controlers. Go clean the house, mow lawn, run errands , take a nap. Check back in a few hours to see if you got any good giraffes.

I havent noticed a quality differance from the hard runs i used to do.

Hitman1105
06-14-2012, 04:58 PM
If you dont care about the kiaris and just want giraffes... Heres what ive been doing (i average one 74+req per run), set to easy, turn infinate build time off, set 1 harpoon at each wyvern spawn, 1 SnD and 2 harpoons at each spawn. 2nd wave add 2 more harpoons to each spawn. Add 3 more controlers. Go clean the house, mow lawn, run errands , take a nap. Check back in a few hours to see if you got any good giraffes.

I havent noticed a quality differance from the hard runs i used to do.

I may try this, just for the lulz. How many upgrades do those giraffe usually have...the hero lvl 74 ones?

paintolar
06-14-2012, 05:04 PM
I may try this, just for the lulz. How many upgrades do those giraffe usually have...the hero lvl 74 ones?
Ive gotten 2 74req 56^ and 63^ a 78req with 69^ and 2 83 req with 69+75^

rveetis
06-14-2012, 05:13 PM
Hey elder, if you are on in the am tommorrow, I will throw my set up and show you how I do my runs, I have better builders now, but I have been doing them the same since all my builders were 70 and up!

eyoeyoeyo
06-14-2012, 05:47 PM
Ive gotten 2 74req 56^ and 63^ a 78req with 69^ and 2 83 req with 69+75^ and how we're the stats on them though..did they all have all 8 stat . And We're they all 25 for every stat cuz on hard every single giraffe is amazing stats.. I just won one with 60 levels and it's 25 on all stats and has all 8 stats.. Also for 74.. And do you get the kairis on easy?? Cuz if not I would never do it on easy.. I've gottenkairis that are better then giraffes stat wise .. So 8 pets on hard or 4 on easy and u might get a good one... And all those good giraffes your naming off, how many times did you play to get those???

mcwolves71
06-14-2012, 05:51 PM
Its faster with 3 afk in from start to finish. The mob count is lower every round.

Cure
06-14-2012, 05:56 PM
The more people you have the faster the mobs go from what I've seen.

paintolar
06-14-2012, 06:10 PM
and how we're the stats on them though..did they all have all 8 stat . And We're they all 25 for every stat cuz on hard every single giraffe is amazing stats.. I just won one with 60 levels and it's 25 on all stats and has all 8 stats.. Also for 74.. And do you get the kairis on easy?? Cuz if not I would never do it on easy.. I've gottenkairis that are better then giraffes stat wise .. So 8 pets on hard or 4 on easy and u might get a good one... And all those good giraffes your naming off, how many times did you play to get those???

Yes all had 8 stats, not always 25s tho, a few are but its random, ive gotten negitve stats form hard runs. No kiaris just genaric faries. And those 5 giraffes were over 7 runs i believe. But the last 6 hard runs ive done didnt yeild anything over 70req.

If i was going to sit in front of the game id do it on hard, this is a pure afk build that can run while im sleeping.

mcwolves71
06-14-2012, 06:55 PM
I have a 88 upgrade I got on hard with negative tower damage

paintolar
06-14-2012, 08:45 PM
I havent noticed a quality differance from the hard runs i used to do.
I may have spoken to soon, just did a run while i was out to dinner. All pre patch upgrades, 1 only had 7 stats, and all 4 were sub par. Could have just been bad luck on the rng, or could have been cause its on easy. I dont know.

ElderLuck
06-14-2012, 09:45 PM
Hey elder, if you are on in the am tommorrow, I will throw my set up and show you how I do my runs, I have better builders now, but I have been doing them the same since all my builders were 70 and up!Sure I am on right now if you want.

Hitman1105
06-15-2012, 09:45 AM
I have a 88 upgrade I got on hard with negative tower damage

That's what I'm always worried about...doing a run for 2+ hours and winding up with something that has some (or all) negative stats. I've heard Medium gives decent giraffes.


I may have spoken to soon, just did a run while i was out to dinner. All pre patch upgrades, 1 only had 7 stats, and all 4 were sub par. Could have just been bad luck on the rng, or could have been cause its on easy. I dont know.

You can get garbage rewards on other difficulties too. At least you didn't spend 3 hours doing it on a higher difficulty for those giraffes.