RE Kraken, I don't blame you Trendy, I suck

[KamelJabber]

LOL, When you suck this bad it's no wonder I can't beat him.
This was take III, but I will prevail!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiwMgWhgzhk

[JeremyStieglitz]

Heheheheh :D

[KamelJabber]

I thought that corner would protect me, I wanted to peek what he was doing but didn't notice the bubble of death till it was too late :D

[djpatje]

looks like a overpowerd boss too me in my opinion so far the only way too kil him on HC is with monkey squire block feels kinda broken too me -.-

[classic22]

Thanks for the laugh, I only laugh because I can't do any better :)

[iamisom]

Ouch! How did take four go?

[KamelJabber]

Ouch! How did take four go?

I have a laptop, when the boss fight started I walked away to stretch ;)
If I plug in my USB cable upside down, my laptop crashes :( I was trying to plug in my fan.

I'm going Rocky Balboa on his butt after work. Even though it's a video game, I think I can tire him out!! :D
I'll be armed with tea, biscuits, and extra hard drive space.

Intermission will be when I put the kids to sleep :)

[D1CER]

One-shotted at full health (115,603 hp) just isn't fair. It breaks the golden rule of video games, "Never one-shot a player at full health".

[Ever]

One-shotted at full health (115,603 hp) just isn't fair. It breaks the golden rule of video games, "Never one-shot a player at full health".

Yeah, and in the exact same gear an apprentice probably has ~40-50k hp...

Trying to play this game solo (in nightmare) is laughable. Spend an hour building a defense, and 1 mob hits you and game over....

[KamelJabber]

to be fair, looks like he hocked up that loogie from deep within!!!!

I guess the question arises, how much damage does 1 loogie do?

Like 150k? That way we can gear up a player with say 151K and be able to take a hit.

[KamelJabber]

Yeah, and in the exact same gear an apprentice probably has ~40-50k hp...

Trying to play this game solo (in nightmare) is laughable. Spend an hour building a defense, and 1 mob hits you and game over....

I have a ranger, ev, countess, squire, barb. You will have to change characters and strategies accordingly. I think we are well beyond trying to play this game with 1 character. I'm sure you probably can, you'll just have to be super beefed up!

I pretty sure I can do this with a squire/barb; but i wanna do it with my Monk =p

[nebody00]

to be fair, looks like he hocked up that loogie from deep within!!!!

I guess the question arises, how much damage does 1 loogie do?

Like 150k? That way we can gear up a player with say 151K and be able to take a hit.

He did 111K to my squire who had 90% phys resist. 0 when blocking.

[kreyson]

Yeah, and in the exact same gear an apprentice probably has ~40-50k hp...

Trying to play this game solo (in nightmare) is laughable. Spend an hour building a defense, and 1 mob hits you and game over....

Remember, you can not play DD solo as an apprentice. Squire is the recommended choice.

[Vsdgkk]

Just so you know if bubble hits u directly its safer... 90k when hitting my squire directly. and the occassional 500k when it misses...

Thats pretty awesome and balanced.

[Lazerus]

Oneshot me with 135k HP, and my EV has 70% resistance on NM
This was the moment i thought...dafuq?

[\/4n!114 ][c3]

that kraken is a kra****. literally, the exact same thing that happened to Kamel happened to me just now. boss cinematic > dead.

and then it just kept happening, no matter where i was because his missle were doing 25k a piece to my ranger. all resists at 73% and 104k hp.

if this is going to be the standard boss difficulty ramp, i can only imagine how difficult the next boss will (unnecessarily) be.

go go increasing powerlevel so you can have only a slight chance of maybe not insta-dieing rather than, you know, actually INCREASING PLAYER POWER LEVEL!!

seriously, what is the balancing standard for this game?

[kreyson]

Personally, i despise all of the boss fights. No reason why the fight should take more than 5 minutes. Not like we spent alot of time already just getting to the boss itself.

[\/4n!114 ][c3]

i dont have a problem with 75% of the, just the queen and the kraken are friggin stupid. the queen because she has such unnecessarily high (90%... wtf) damage reduction, and the kraken because he is invulnerable 99% of the time you fight him while completely capable of insta-gibbing players and towers.

the demon lord or whatever, he's tough, but he is manageable even when disaster strikes, and if you do it right, you can kill him in less than a minute.

the goblin mech is by far the easiest boss, all you have to do is have someone tank him and then have another person camp a harpoon base with a guardian.

the dragon is easy cakes when you can get a group of players who dont just want to DPS him to death. the real fight for him is as it should be, letting your towers do the work while you work on the towers. by far the best boss fight in the game.

the genie king gives the goblin mech a run for his money in terms of how easy the boss fight is. im on the fence about whether i feel like the genie king is a good boss fight or a bad one. but favor is given to good because the boss fight a solely a matter of player skill as opposed to figuring out and figuring out how to control random AI scripting. and there is room for error with the genie king fight. you mess up on the queen or the kraken and 30% of your defenses are gone before you know it.

[KamelJabber]

Well I lost again...I double clicked F9 so no video, but I got one more in me tonight. I thought I had the best start ever so far.
Yet to take out even 1 tentacle, LOL.

[KamelJabber]

Lost again, this new version of FRAPS is confusing me, no video again :/
I think I know what I'm doing wrong (with the recording)

[senz54]

I thought the bosses were hard until I figured them out. Queen is cake now, the Genie King I've only killed once but he wasn't particularly hard imo. The original campaign bosses are just laughably easy and Vanilla I have great success just DPSing the dragon with my Barbarian. I do use towers for DPS as well though, but only one on each "stop"(the spots he stops at after you shoot him). The Kraken was quite hard but he still only took me two tries to beat. To be fair I probably overgeared him a little but I'm convinced you can do it at lower gear levels than mine.

I'd say go with your barb, it's much easier. Just turtle him down, if you can't take hits then run around at a safe distance and let your pet do the work. If you can take some damage, then DPS him and use tornado stance to jump up to reach his tentacles, if you can land on his head that's very beneficial as it gives you full access to tentacles.
Once you're low(low being 50%, possibly more if your HP is below 200k), heal yourself up on the boss with turtle+siphon or run away and use siphon stance on mobs to heal yourself. Rinse and repeat for as long as it takes. I could take about 10mil off him each time I got the tentacles down so it took a while but in the end it worked.

Also kamel, I can give you a hand if you want me to :)

[\/4n!114 ][c3]

nah, you misunderstand me senz. the problem i keep having on the summit is i keep getting in groups where people completely forget that the base has to be defended, so spiders keep coming in and webbing towers which generally leads to walls going down which leads to losses.

[senz54]

[c3;456525']nah, you misunderstand me senz. the problem i keep having on the summit is i keep getting in groups where people completely forget that the base has to be defended, so spiders keep coming in and webbing towers which generally leads to walls going down which leads to losses.

Oh. Whenever I do Summit it's because I'm boosting someone and when I boost people they do as I ask them to or I do something else :P So I don't have your problem :P

[nikodareus]

I'm guessing his loogie is magic damage because it only does about 20k-30k to me. Nowhere near 110k-500k.

I'll be honest though, I don't think you have the DPS to kill him. Doing damage to him is much harder than surviving him. I can survive the fight for 20 minutes easy since the mobs for kraken fight are easy. It's just a matter of actually trying to kill him that tends to be the problem. I eventually just get tired of trying to kite him and repair auras all the time. And that's with 3-4x your hero damage.

Definitely not a solo boss. Much easier / actually possible in a group. Which in my opinion is the way good bosses should be. (I just dont think group-required bosses should be part of campaign and should be part of survival) I.e. This would be a great wave 30 fight :P A little screwy for a campaign boss. (And it's rare I say anything in this game is too hard)

[senz54]

(I just dont think group-required bosses should be part of campaign and should be part of survival) I.e. This would be a great wave 30 fight :P A little screwy for a campaign boss. (And it's rare I say anything in this game is too hard)

If I fought through 30 waves of Survival, got to a boss and then died, I would kill something :p

[KamelJabber]

So the most popular idea floating around was to get a Squire and block until the pet kills it.
That can't be anymore boring :( At least when I die with a Monk it's exciting :)

tbh didn't look like I was getting anywhere.

I'm not sure but zero's kept scrolling by. Maybe that's why folks recommended a monkey (physical damage?). The boss is elemental immune? Maybe if I stand in STR and a Heal?

I dunno, seemed pointless so I died. Gonna take a while to level up a monkey....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLRHKW0ur3Q&feature=youtu.be


EDIT: now that I watch the replay, his tentacles were flashing red. The zeros must have been the hits on him. I'll let my kids take shifts holding down the RMB :)

[KamelJabber]

Well got a win :)

I squired up and blocked all day, and rage attack when he lost tentacles.
Barb for DPS and tower maintenance.
Monk for DPS, boost and crowd control.
Mostly I think the monk did all the damage. Doesn't hurt our Monk was a kick butt player.

Still don't know how the Aggro works. He like gets away and I have no idea how to get him back. He just kinda comes back on his own...

Video is encoding, it's 20 GB. I may have to play it in 3x, you'll get bored :)

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/560940860655343418/C0E49742CED2D27CC3C6C606CE6B673570B62821/

[KamelJabber]

Here is the win: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RKLXs5MHeQ&feature=youtu.be
The build is also there but i'm pretty sure that's not the issue folks actually have.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2ZzdQjIg_Q

[Coolbas3]

Here is the win: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RKLXs5MHeQ&feature=youtu.be
The build is also there but i'm pretty sure that's not the issue folks actually have.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2ZzdQjIg_Q

Gratz with your victory! Did you got a good reward?

[MadSharken]

Trying to play this game solo (in nightmare) is laughable. Spend an hour building a defense, and 1 mob hits you and game over....

This. +1.

Kraken one shot kill me always. Game over. Can't find a solution on how to beat him solo. :skeleton:

[KamelJabber]

@Coolbas3: TY. If the reward was good I didn't notice. My ItemBox is kinda full from loads of crappy monkeys/donkeys/griffons and the stuff that petting the animals gives you. As I scanned through, nothing stood out as good ;)

@MadSharken: Yah, I wanna beat it solo. The duo/trio was a breeze. Maybe I'll wake up early Sunday morning and go for the solo win. It really just would take.....forever :)

p.s. Can we make petting the animals stop filling up the ItemBox with crap?