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Steiny
04-26-2012, 08:15 PM
Biggest thing I was looking forward to with patch was the "set to PC specs" for tower attack rate.

Now brings up the question. When you "inspect" a tower, and, for example, a MM tower has an attack rate of "0.20". I was under the assumption that means the tower will attack 5 times per second (0.20*5=1).

My MM tower shoots 2 times per second, roughly. Why is this?

Also, have they completely abandoned fixing pet attack rates? I thought this would be fixed as well... I tested one of my dragons, who has "1 shot per second." He STILL shoots once every 3 or so seconds. Is anyone else pissed off about this?

Mikey-Flies
04-26-2012, 08:33 PM
Animus seems to shoot about right (maybe not quite fast enough but enough faster to make a big difference now) and the laser robot might have been too (didn't use him long enough to tell really). I am a little pissed about the apprentice towers though :(

Iyashii
04-26-2012, 08:41 PM
Trendy is in the process of improving the tower attack rate to PC specifications.
They did not say it would be completed in the first patch.

SilverDefender
04-26-2012, 09:38 PM
Trendy is in the process of improving the tower attack rate to PC specifications.
They did not say it would be completed in the first patch.

Well the patch notes did say, "Tower Attack Rate scaling improved to PC specifications." To not towards, to. Same goes for pets. So the towers and pets should be shooting at the shown speeds but they don't(I'd really like to know why they don't b/c the MMT's are still pretty useless.) And for some reason the patch notes seem to be missing quite a few "ninja" nerfs, App Tower atk rate nerf, lol they haven't even fixed the attack rates and they're already nerfing them. :( I like my app but he has been sitting the bench for more than 6 months and it needs to change, Soon!

SiLeNTxMoNsTeR
04-26-2012, 09:41 PM
I dont know about you but I found the my animus attack rate to be around acceptable. I might not be 6 sps but it has improved significantly from before the patch

SilverDefender
04-26-2012, 09:44 PM
I dont know about you but I found the my animus attack rate to be around acceptable. I might not be 6 sps but it has improved significantly from before the patch

For the animus, acceptable, sure but not what it needs to be. For everything else, well let's just say my grandma could run the mile before the MMT's actually get to kill something(.25 atk rate is only 2 shots per second???)

SiLeNTxMoNsTeR
04-26-2012, 11:12 PM
For the animus, acceptable, sure but not what it needs to be. For everything else, well let's just say my grandma could run the mile before the MMT's actually get to kill something(.25 atk rate is only 2 shots per second???)

I agree the apprentice towers are slightly ridiculous but I do know one thing...Trendy is not a stuid company. If there is a large flaw in the game that detracts from the gameplay they very often fix it. This is not to say there the fastest company in doing so but they get the job sone never the less.

Jaws_420
04-27-2012, 12:53 AM
I just wonder why they have items that claim things in numbers but cannot deliver. If the attack rate states so many shots per second...then it should do that, pure and simple, or change the numbers to reflect the truth. over promising and under delivering is what gets fans mad. If it says .5 shot speed, i wont care anymore, but if its says .2 and shoots at .5...its like- WTF.

For example, why do genies still only give 70 mana/per after 2 patches have come and gone? They took the time to create new genie amounts (i have one over 450), but it still only gives 70. That is just bad piroritizing. Fix teh easy obvious errors. Why cant i delete the DLC pets yet? Why in gods name did they nerf App towers when they still dont even shoot at the stated speed??? Why does the monster ticker still cover only 1 kill at a time? Make the game do what it says it will and that will alleviate many concerns.

I honestly expected a lot more of the patches after waiting so long for them and being told over and over again how much they wanted to get into one patch because of the cost. That and the QC testing was obviousy flawed as it seems to add as many defects as they get rid of on each patch. I am most sad at the nerfing of drops on this second patch. Great items were keeping my intrest after all of that grinding, but getting lvl 83 junk again and again is getting old...fast. I just might have to wait until the 4th DLC comes out before i get into the game again. Grindning Glitterhelm is becoming a complete chore and a bore.

SilverDefender
04-27-2012, 08:50 AM
I just wonder why they have items that claim things in numbers but cannot deliver. If the attack rate states so many shots per second...then it should do that, pure and simple, or change the numbers to reflect the truth. over promising and under delivering is what gets fans mad. If it says .5 shot speed, i wont care anymore, but if its says .2 and shoots at .5...its like- WTF.

For example, why do genies still only give 70 mana/per after 2 patches have come and gone? They took the time to create new genie amounts (i have one over 450), but it still only gives 70. That is just bad piroritizing. Fix teh easy obvious errors. Why cant i delete the DLC pets yet? Why in gods name did they nerf App towers when they still dont even shoot at the stated speed??? Why does the monster ticker still cover only 1 kill at a time? Make the game do what it says it will and that will alleviate many concerns.

I honestly expected a lot more of the patches after waiting so long for them and being told over and over again how much they wanted to get into one patch because of the cost. That and the QC testing was obviousy flawed as it seems to add as many defects as they get rid of on each patch. I am most sad at the nerfing of drops on this second patch. Great items were keeping my intrest after all of that grinding, but getting lvl 83 junk again and again is getting old...fast. I just might have to wait until the 4th DLC comes out before i get into the game again. Grindning Glitterhelm is becoming a complete chore and a bore.

Yeah, the most annoying parts for 360 also are, hackers still everywhere, app towers still being useless b/c of atk rate not being fixed, and pet attack rate not being fixed.

kidrue
04-27-2012, 10:10 AM
I am completely in support of this thread. My MMT attack rate says .21 seconds. I would think that that would mean about 5 shots per second.. I counted 42 shots in 20 seconds.. which is 21 in 10 or 2.1 per second.

So... is this an error in typing? Or is it an error in programming? Is the decimal in the wrong place and what they mean is 2.1 per second? If so.. this is ****. Totally ineffective against mobs.

If it is an error in programming, the PLEASE get on the issue NOW so we don't have to wait another 3 months for the next patch, PLEASE!!!

Hellnel
04-27-2012, 10:19 AM
I just wonder why they have items that claim things in numbers but cannot deliver. If the attack rate states so many shots per second...then it should do that, pure and simple, or change the numbers to reflect the truth. over promising and under delivering is what gets fans mad. If it says .5 shot speed, i wont care anymore, but if its says .2 and shoots at .5...its like- WTF.

For example, why do genies still only give 70 mana/per after 2 patches have come and gone? They took the time to create new genie amounts (i have one over 450), but it still only gives 70. That is just bad piroritizing. Fix teh easy obvious errors. Why cant i delete the DLC pets yet? Why in gods name did they nerf App towers when they still dont even shoot at the stated speed??? Why does the monster ticker still cover only 1 kill at a time? Make the game do what it says it will and that will alleviate many concerns.

I honestly expected a lot more of the patches after waiting so long for them and being told over and over again how much they wanted to get into one patch because of the cost. That and the QC testing was obviousy flawed as it seems to add as many defects as they get rid of on each patch. I am most sad at the nerfing of drops on this second patch. Great items were keeping my intrest after all of that grinding, but getting lvl 83 junk again and again is getting old...fast. I just might have to wait until the 4th DLC comes out before i get into the game again. Grindning Glitterhelm is becoming a complete chore and a bore.

I can't add anything in you words... it is EXACTLY what i think.

If you cant deliver, dont promise it!
When you create an expectation to your CONSUMERS, you need to fulfill it.
I was thinking exactly like you, yesterday i was talking to some friend of mine "Why the hell didn't they raise the numbers to reach the real cap? One more opportunity to show consistency thrown away"

HeavenlyClassic
04-27-2012, 10:51 AM
so does attack rate work on squire towers?
i know it does on auras

mixmasta
04-27-2012, 02:51 PM
i just wonder why they have items that claim things in numbers but cannot deliver. If the attack rate states so many shots per second...then it should do that, pure and simple, or change the numbers to reflect the truth. Over promising and under delivering is what gets fans mad. If it says .5 shot speed, i wont care anymore, but if its says .2 and shoots at .5...its like- wtf.

For example, why do genies still only give 70 mana/per after 2 patches have come and gone? They took the time to create new genie amounts (i have one over 450), but it still only gives 70. That is just bad piroritizing. Fix teh easy obvious errors. Why cant i delete the dlc pets yet? Why in gods name did they nerf app towers when they still dont even shoot at the stated speed??? Why does the monster ticker still cover only 1 kill at a time? Make the game do what it says it will and that will alleviate many concerns.

I honestly expected a lot more of the patches after waiting so long for them and being told over and over again how much they wanted to get into one patch because of the cost. That and the qc testing was obviousy flawed as it seems to add as many defects as they get rid of on each patch. I am most sad at the nerfing of drops on this second patch. Great items were keeping my intrest after all of that grinding, but getting lvl 83 junk again and again is getting old...fast. I just might have to wait until the 4th dlc comes out before i get into the game again. Grindning glitterhelm is becoming a complete chore and a bore.


qft!!

SilverDefender
04-27-2012, 03:17 PM
I just wonder why they have items that claim things in numbers but cannot deliver. If the attack rate states so many shots per second...then it should do that, pure and simple, or change the numbers to reflect the truth. over promising and under delivering is what gets fans mad. If it says .5 shot speed, i wont care anymore, but if its says .2 and shoots at .5...its like- WTF.

For example, why do genies still only give 70 mana/per after 2 patches have come and gone? They took the time to create new genie amounts (i have one over 450), but it still only gives 70. That is just bad piroritizing. Fix teh easy obvious errors. Why cant i delete the DLC pets yet? Why in gods name did they nerf App towers when they still dont even shoot at the stated speed??? Why does the monster ticker still cover only 1 kill at a time? Make the game do what it says it will and that will alleviate many concerns.

I honestly expected a lot more of the patches after waiting so long for them and being told over and over again how much they wanted to get into one patch because of the cost. That and the QC testing was obviousy flawed as it seems to add as many defects as they get rid of on each patch. I am most sad at the nerfing of drops on this second patch. Great items were keeping my intrest after all of that grinding, but getting lvl 83 junk again and again is getting old...fast. I just might have to wait until the 4th DLC comes out before i get into the game again. Grindning Glitterhelm is becoming a complete chore and a bore.

Just going to keep the thread going, qft. Need too fix the attack rates. If you promise something then you need to deliver Trendy.

Iyashii
04-27-2012, 03:21 PM
I just wonder why they have items that claim things in numbers but cannot deliver. If the attack rate states so many shots per second...then it should do that, pure and simple, or change the numbers to reflect the truth. over promising and under delivering is what gets fans mad. If it says .5 shot speed, i wont care anymore, but if its says .2 and shoots at .5...its like- WTF.

I trust Trendy to know what they are doing. It is their game and their game code.

My only opinion is that Trendy is slowly adjusting the code/formulas instead of a flat-out change.
This is to prevent any unwanted bugs that may arise with a large change in the game code.


For example, why do genies still only give 70 mana/per after 2 patches have come and gone? They took the time to create new genie amounts (i have one over 450), but it still only gives 70. That is just bad piroritizing. Fix teh easy obvious errors. Why cant i delete the DLC pets yet? Why in gods name did they nerf App towers when they still dont even shoot at the stated speed??? Why does the monster ticker still cover only 1 kill at a time? Make the game do what it says it will and that will alleviate many concerns.

The Genie's mana return sounds like it's defaulting on a minimum cap for some reason. I can only speculate, but I would imagine there is some code interfering with the Genie's mana return.

It looks like Trendy is adjusting the towers, as I stated above, slowly instead of flat out drastic changes.
While this is annoying for us now, at the end of it everything should be in working order.


I honestly expected a lot more of the patches after waiting so long for them and being told over and over again how much they wanted to get into one patch because of the cost. That and the QC testing was obviousy flawed as it seems to add as many defects as they get rid of on each patch. I am most sad at the nerfing of drops on this second patch. Great items were keeping my intrest after all of that grinding, but getting lvl 83 junk again and again is getting old...fast. I just might have to wait until the 4th DLC comes out before i get into the game again. Grindning Glitterhelm is becoming a complete chore and a bore.

I can't argue with that.
Rather depressing with the lack of content in the patches.