Patch Request: Stop guardians from dropping with negative boost.

[Metavex]

So after countless oasis runs I finally managed to snag a guardian with good stats and ups:
http://i.imgur.com/niDnG.jpg

This guardian would finally have been the tower stat guardian I've been searching for if only it didn't happen to have negative boost, making it completely useless other than as a giraffe.

It seems that with the higher loot potential I'm seeing since 7.2, more than 50% of guardians are made completely useless by this negative boost stigma. It is a really crushing let down to see "Huntress Guardian has been added to your inventory" and get excited, only to be met by negative boost time and time again.

[HKN]

I support this.

With higher randomization multiplier, the probability of getting a negative boost guardian is certainly high.

[Sharp]

Or better yet, ~(DefenseBoost & 0x80).

Both are still masking the larger problem of using signed bytes/shorts/ints.

[Tresdezara]

http://steamcommunity.com/id/Tresdezara/screenshot/594714536672817011?tab=public
http://steamcommunity.com/id/Tresdezara/screenshot/594714536672813529?tab=public

Both received as rewards from OMF. Waste of 2 MVP reward slots.

[Friedrich Psitalon]

Very much agreed. Respectfully, negative guardians - and heavily/ENTIRELY negative pets as a rule - is a pretty major slap in the face as a reward for anyone who grinds to 15 or 25. The grind ITSELF is kind of a penalty, guys. Spitting in the face of someone who just did an endurance run is not cool.

Signed, the guy who got 4 giraffes earlier this week that were ALL 50% or more negative stats.

[Falacer]

I for one dont mind the one or two negative stats as long as they are offset with an equal number of "generous" high stats. Getting guardians with only 2 green stats and the rest red just plain sucks! Especially after like folks above you complete OMF or one of the UMFs on NM HC.

[Beslan]

@Falacer i think we're talking about the Guardians defence boost stat.

I am for this as well, i have two Huntress Guardians and a monk guardian that all started with -70ish on defence boost. I don't mind getting negatives here and there in stats but in defence boost? That's kinda bull.

Getting a 157^ huntress Guardian with a -71 for me was like "okay, i'll upgrade it so it's out of negative" but then i remember you can upgrade that part of it once every 3 or so levels.

[Xpen]

did many ~30-40 runs OMF only for guard, and what i got? ~7 guards and all with negative boots and only one with +1 boost

[prostheus]

did many ~30-40 runs OMF only for guard, and what i got? ~7 guards and all with negative boots and only one with +1 boost

I hate negative boots :) Unless... they make you defy gravity! :)

Back OT: I agree with the masses of negatives that you can get time & time again, and have a very VERY low chance of getting something decent. Big grinds should = big reward, not a turd...

[HKN]

Disable the hardcore, that will make the reward pets beign more mainstream but it reduce the chance of getting an utterly useless guardian.

[Friedrich Psitalon]

As I said in another thread awhile ago:

One should not have to use workarounds to deal with issues of game design. Instead, one should expect the design to be fixed to its intent, not left as it functions.

[Malibu Stacey]

http://steamcommunity.com/id/malibustacey/screenshot/505767392779957943


As I said in another thread awhile ago:

One should not have to use workarounds to deal with issues of game design. Instead, one should expect the design to be fixed to its intent, not left as it functions.

Very much this but fixing long-standing issues which affect the players on a regular basis doesn't seem to be how things are done round these parts.

[SJG200]

PleasePleasePleasePleasePlease

[BlingtiN]

Im afraid, Im in the club too :(

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/576700611171715070/60B019038602B130EDC5D4E7EF121CEE2BFA94E2/

[waffleberry]

I am also faced the annoyingness of this.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7244165/DL%20mirrors/2012-03-15_00016.jpg

[Urza]

Collect them bad guardains. I bet once this is fixed all them negative guardians will be positive in an instant and then someone who happened to be stockpiling them could retire. I wonder who is doing that?

[Malibu Stacey]

Collect them bad guardains. I bet once this is fixed all them negative guardians will be positive in an instant and then someone who happened to be stockpiling them could retire. I wonder who is doing that?

LOL. no. Doesn't work like that.

[ramk13]

Wouldn't it be funny if the negative guardians actually decreased damage? Imagine the griefing potential. Ok, maybe not funny.

[ChimpsMcGhee]

Wouldn't it be funny if the negative guardians actually decreased damage? Imagine the griefing potential. Ok, maybe not funny.

That would bring the potential of trolling to new levels of crazy, with the ability to find someone running a monsterfest just to hop in and debuff their towers. I am so glad that this is not an issue.

[Urza]

LOL. no. Doesn't work like that.

If they do address negative boost guardians then I dont think its a stretch to say they current negative ones would be fixed like the ppl who have already done the required achievement already will retroactively get the MK2 portal gun.

[nsih197]

i got a wonderful -125 boost huntress guardian >.< fist time i beat nm hc umf 2 *sigh*

[deathsythe]

joined the club -150 huntress guard and -50 monk guard.

[FrooK]

Got the exact same stuff.. Finally managed to beat OMF solo, and I get 2 squire guardians with -100ish boost.. First of all they are squire guardians :( and then boost makes them even more useless.

Would be great if there was a fix for this. And am I the only one getting WORSE pets from Survival if Mixed Mode is enabled?

[Malibu Stacey]

If they do address negative boost guardians then I dont think its a stretch to say they current negative ones would be fixed like the ppl who have already done the required achievement already will retroactively get the MK2 portal gun.

If you know anything about software development then yes it's a stretch to fix the current negative ones especially when looking at Trendy's past track record with similar issues.

[Gilgehmesh]

I have a table full of negative boost guardians to amuse the guests at my tavern. I do not expect their negative boosts to be retroactively fixed. Only if..

[SJG200]

Trendy please!