Squire vs. App for NM towers?

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I was just wondering what class would be the best to use if I were looking to farm some HCNM surv maps as a tower builder. I have been told that the App was nerfed and the Squire was buffed a bit in NM. Let me know what you guys think.

PS. If you have any good map setups post those here too.

Thanks!

[nastharl]

Use both, there are strengths and weaknesses to both sets of towers.

[bigjeey]

Squire towers out damage the apprentice ones, that's for sure. A bowling ball hits for 54K damage, and has a fire rate of .07 or .09 with my huntress guard. Harpoons are around the same damage.
My apprentice with the same gear but the staff (even better then my sword !) has fireballs that hit for around 24K a pop (IIRC)

The main drawback of squire towers is that they are situational. Not all maps have appropriate chokes to use squire stuff, and their range is more limited.

[Rhytech]

Use both, there are strengths and weaknesses to both sets of towers.

I'll second that. Possibly add a monk for auras (ensnare and/or enrage).

[Vallos]

Apprentice towers do less damage but are generally more accurate in that they hit more often especially versus mobs that are moving perpendicular to the tower's facing or in the air.

On the other hand, against mobs on the ground that are coming straight at the tower, Squire towers will do more damage.

Also note that since Squire towers deal generic damage they work equally well versus all enemies as opposed to the Apprentice' FB and lightning towers.

[nastharl]

Bowling balls have horrid splash, Harpoons splash is very situational. Lightning is extremly eficient, so are fireballs in that they splash huge and dont require perfect accuracy.

DPS isn't really the primary thing that matters when looking at towers.

[lofi]

harpoons win hands down, 70k Fireball towers vs 170k harpoon towers with app buff at 2k+ stats.... harpoons also have piercing which makes them lane killers.

[CrzyRndm]

harpoons win hands down, 70k Fireball towers vs 170k harpoon towers with app buff at 2k+ stats.... harpoons also have piercing which makes them lane killers.
Just to add to this^
Harps massacre ogres, especially in NM survival when they tend to line up one behind the other. And even when harps miss, they tend to kill the mob right behind the intended target :p (especially effective with huntress guardians).

They also out dps cannonballs very slightly, making them only useful when they have a good stair/fenced in lane in which the harp could never hit reliably (ramparts for example)

[SyDiko]

Ideally, the devs have designed the game where you will need to utilize all Towers, Auras, and Traps. It's a good idea to use more than 1 character. :)

My Choke points look like this:

EnSnare Aura
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Darkness Trap

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Spike Tower
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Missle | Fireball | Lightning
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Harpoon | Harpoon

anniliates everything. :)