Console Patch Notes (Updated 10/24/12) and Console DLC Q&A

[iamisom]

The PSN US and XBLA versions of Shards IV and patch have been submitted to the appropriate console companies! We'll keep you updated as we hear more.

Patch 3 for PSN US/PSN EU (PSN US out now; PSN EU TBD)

- Insane+ difficulty mode
- New Level Cap: 90!
- PS3 freezing issues (including the DLC freezing issues) resolved

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Patch 2 for XBLA (Out Now!)

- Insane+ difficulty mode
- New Level Cap: 90!

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Patch 2 for PSN US/PSN EU

- Dundef_spider mismatch error fixed
- Increased level cap to 83
- Added additional hooks for Shards 3 to help streamline the process of releasing the DLC

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Patch 1 for XBLA/PSN US/PSN EU

Feast your eyes on the console patch notes!

PS3 and Xbox 360:
- Tower Attack Rate scaling improved to PC specifications
- Pet Attack Rate scaling improved to PC specifications
- Giraffes are now awarded at Wave 25 and survival stability is also correspondingly improved
- Mistymire weapons now have their appropriate artwork and will save on your hero. (Which means Mistymire reward weapons should not disappear!) Added DLC 2 (Desert Town) weapons/pet as well for that upcoming release. (There's a technical issue with the Mistymire pet, so we're unable to bring that to you. Sorry about that!)
- Raised Level Cap to 78 and added higher-quality items as a result
- Fixed last-minute hero-swapping bug
- Fixed Treasure Hunt skipping issue
- Fixed a potential save corruption case (We never reproduced it here in the office, so this potential fix is mostly guesswork.)
- Fixed bandwidth issue with projectile towers that will also resolve various online latency issues (weapons not appearing, invisible enemies, etc.)
- Squire Towers are a bit less damaging
- You can now have spaces in hero names from the initial Create Hero UI
- Fixed Obedience Training accomplishment to include certain extra Pet variants
- Made Achievements/Trophies attempt to unlock at regular intervals when the Accomplishments are checked (catches any cases where the Achievement or Trophy was not awarded at the time)
- Non-DLC players should no longer have trouble joining DLC Taverns
- Increased the Hero Cap value of all Stats (except for Run Speed) from 70 to 120
- Increased the Mana Cap to 200 million and added four extra item pages to the forge
- Fixed armor stat bug
- Fixed mana exploit

Xbox 360:
- Fixed tavern unlock glitch

PS3:
- Left Analog stick fix
- Added French, Italian, German, Spanish localization for DLCs
- Fixed case where owners of PS Plus exclusive DLC (Monkey & other Pets) may not have been able to connect sometimes online with other players

Note from Jeremy: Sorry about the not-earning-Trophies-on-secondary accounts. We wanted to do this for the original game and originally had it like that, but it was a Sony Technical Requirement for Certification that such functionality be disabled.

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Console DLC


When we were making Dungeon Defenders, we knew we wanted to make DLC. At the same time, we couldn’t afford to pretend Dungeon Defenders was going to be Minecraft (or hell, even Magicka) when it released. We couldn’t dedicate our small tech team (3 people!) to spend a large chunk of precious development time on DLC when we still had a lot of work to do on the core game.

So instead, we planned for DLC around these limitations. That’s where the idea of the Quests for the Lost Eternia Shards originated -- new cinematics, new maps, new bosses, new items and new pets. We knew each of these would require a patch to add in the latter two features (as well as whatever new functions we would like the challenge missions and levels to have), and we knew those patches would cost money, but we accepted that. We made sure to add functionality for the first of these packs into the game, so the first DLC would release in a timely matter, and then started going through the exciting process that is console certification.

While the completed console versions were in the certification process, it hit us... Halloween was around the corner. And then there was Thanksgiving Day, and Christmas... and more! Jeremy and I had a discussion, and we made, what we already knew was going to be an unpopular decision, to treat the PC version as a different SKU from the console game and create holiday events which were not compatible with the final console versions. We didn’t think it was fair to PC players to update the PC version within the framework of console restrictions, when many of those restrictions did not exist on PC. At the same time we created console events, which was our way of giving back to the console community within the framework we could operate in.

Until after release, this idea only extended to Holiday Events. The advertised differences between the versions were controls and TrendyNet Events (at that time they were just going to be that -- free, time-limited events). But, as work progressed on the Events, we started to get... creative.

We were compelled by the overwhelming desire to dress up the Monk as a Ninja for Halloween, the Huntress as an Angel. On Steam, we could make that a reality. So we took those spare technical resources and created an outfit system for PC. Our artists worked day and night to create the new character models. We sweat blood pumping out Holiday levels that we didn’t have nearly enough time to complete. That furious work right after release nearly broke the team (seriously, we had a meeting and everything).

By that time, the game was a huge success on PC, and we decided to carry on giving PC players the support and features they requested beyond Holiday Events, with the anticipation of going back and trying our darnest to get anything we could to console.

After much thought and investigation, we’ve decided it’s unfeasible from both a technical and business standpoint to bring the PC-only content (Holiday DLC, New Heroes Pack, Barbarian, Assault Mission Pack, Nightmare Mode, Shops, etc.) to the console versions. This is for a variety of reasons including the massive restructuring of the current console game that would have to take place, the QA process necessary to prepare for submission, patch size limitations, patch stacking requirements, and the opportunity cost of pursuing other projects.

We are very sorry, given the current console framework, that we cannot deliver this content to console players, but we do stand by the fact that, while different, both the console and PC versions of Dungeon Defenders are great products (and tremendous values). We hope that in the future, with news like this, other companies will be able to provide the support we have to PC players simultaneously to console players, too.

Sincerely,
Pmasher

Q. Why is the PC-only DLC/features not coming to Console?
A. This is for a variety of technical and business reasons including patch size limitations and patch stacking requirements, as well as the massive restructuring of the current console game that would have to take place, the QA processes necessary to prepare those changes for submission, and the opportunity cost of pursuing other projects.

Q. What is the difference between patching on Consoles and PC?
A. There are two key differences between patching on consoles and patching on PC: approval processes and platform-restrictions. The former forces content to be finished well in advance of their release on console. The latter includes restrictions such as patch size (4mb on XBLA, unless you’re granted an exception), content, etc. For example, XBLA patches stack, so it would require anyone who downloads Dungeon Defenders to immediately download all of the subsequent patches on launch. So, even if we were allowed to update console like we have on PC, anyone who downloaded Dungeon Defenders today would immediately have to download multiple gigabytes of content via a series of updates, before actually launching the game.

Q. What is console getting?
A. Consoles will be getting Parts I-IV of the Quest for the Lost Eternia Shards packs, as well as their associated weapons and pets. The first patch will contain those as well as an unspecified number of bug-fixes and some balancing changes (the team is still working on both of these now). At this point, I really don’t want to dangle a carrot in front of anyone’s face, but we are looking into putting some of the other weapons and pets added into PC over the last few months into console. HOWEVER, we are limited by the small RAM in consoles and the way the existing DunDef weapon/hero system utilizes it, in regards to how much content beyond the Quest we can add.

Q. Why would you tease us with pictures of other Hero Classes in the secret room on XBLA if you didn’t intend to give them to us?
A. We originally wanted all of our parody artwork (seen in the PC and PS3 versions of the game) to also be in the wall in the XBLA version. One of the last-minute requests from our publisher on that version right before Microsoft Certification was to remove those posters. Up went all the concept art we had available on our computers.

Q. When is the console patch coming?
A. We still plan to submit the console patch this month. As for its actual release, that depends on the QA.

[warpedreality]

there so pretty.
any increase in difficulty on insain?

[Orko]

Thank you for the hard work, this is gonna be a title update or a cache update?

[TheszNuts]

- Mistymire weapons now have their appropriate artwork and will save on your hero. Added DLC 2 (Desert Town) weapons/pet as well for that upcoming release. (There's a technical issue with the Mistymire pet, so we're unable to bring that to you. Sorry about that!)
Will they also have their special effects like the PC version?

[ElectricBlaze]

lvl 78 here I come! w00t can't wait for the patch :squire:

[iamisom]

there so pretty.
any increase in difficulty on insain?

Sadly, no. Sorry about that!


Will they also have their special effects like the PC version?

Oh yeah!


Thank you for the hard work, this is gonna be a title update or a cache update?

Title update. :^)

[Dredd]

This is such good news especially with the addition of higher progression :-). Good times are coming.

[AnyaMirskii]

*Wakes up, first thing sees upon refreshing console page is Patch Notes, joygasms*

Ok, two questions. Well, one is more of a plea, the other is a question.

First off, I assume this means the armor stat bug is not going to be fixed. Will this be fixed in the next patch?

Second, please please PLEASE tell me you will never ever EVER nerf Piercing Shot like you did on PC DX

[TheszNuts]

2nd question about Mistymire, will the changes be retroactive or will they only affect rewards gained post-patch?

[michael1765]

yes yes yes finally i should have legendary defender now when these come out i had every pet at one time i had upgraded my weapons obediance training i had but all in split screen leggendary defender here i come chicken wooo

[trobos]

what do you mean higher quality loot are you saying we are having super loot?

[michael1765]

oooo and does the weapon thing also meen the spider cleaver will look like the one from the p.c aswell as the other weapons ?

[iamisom]

*Wakes up, first thing sees upon refreshing console page is Patch Notes, joygasms*

Ok, two questions. Well, one is more of a plea, the other is a question.

First off, I assume this means the armor stat bug is not going to be fixed. Will this be fixed in the next patch?

Second, please please PLEASE tell me you will never ever EVER nerf Piercing Shot like you did on PC DX

You'll have to refresh my memory on the armor stat bug. As for the Piercing Shot, I think we've learned as a company to never say never. :^) But I'll try to talk down anyone who suggests it.


2nd question about Mistymire, will the changes be retroactive or will they only affect rewards gained post-patch?

The changes will only affect rewards gained post-patch.

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To anyone else who has a question, I'll try to get you an answer sometime tonight.

[vj4486]

Love, so much love >D

[Gashen-Sai]

So better loot? Does that mean event weapons will finally be passed up?

P.s. define "a bit less damaging" for squire towers lol, are we talking 1%,5%,25%?

[AnyaMirskii]

You'll have to refresh my memory on the armor stat bug. As for the Piercing Shot, I think we've learned as a company to never say never. :^) But I'll try to talk down anyone who suggests it.



The changes will only affect rewards gained post-patch.

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To anyone else who has a question, I'll try to get you an answer sometime tonight.

:D Good man! <3

And the armor stat bug was never something widely known so it's possible you didn't know about it.

I'm not the one calling it as such, I read another player here call it that, and it is this:
Armors seem to only fit 8 stat bonuses, which is why we rarely ever see anything with all 4 tower stats drop, especially anything godly with tower radius bonuses. Will the higher-quality loot just bypass this?

And another question (or two). Will we betting ALL the pretty new weapon skins PC has from mistymire? Like I saw a ladybug one that was a random survival drop. Which also begs the question, will survival drops get a bit better, too?

[XBM Yosho]

So my perfect Crystal Tracker will suck compared to a new post-patch perfect Crystal Tracker right? I don't really understand what it means by better loot, Does this mean same stats and more upgrades? More stats and same upgrades?

[Dredd]

what do you mean higher quality loot are you saying we are having super loot?



No. There is no point in having superloot when there is no higher difficulty that surpasses insane. The best way to put it, we are getting a extremely nerfed version of superloot.

[iamisom]

Actually, scratch my earlier comment. I'll try to get you guys some answers in tomorrow's Digest. Keep asking away!

[perfiction_1337]

good god, i love you hitmon, and everyone at trendy for all your hardwork and dedication. you just made me ONE HAPPY MAN! :D!!!! i can't thank you enough really ^_^

[Gashen-Sai]

No. There is no point in having superloot when there is no higher difficulty that surpasses insane. The best way to put it, we are getting a extremely nerfed version of superloot.

In other-words it might make weapons from chests comparable to other weapons we use from challenges and such, maybe higher quality armor as well. Meaning you need level 70-78 to use it instead of lv60 for godly as it is now.

[Iyashii]

what do you mean higher quality loot are you saying we are having super loot?

With the current cap of 70 the best items are what, level 60 requirement?
I'm assuming with a new level cap we will get items of higher quality that have a higher level requirement.


:D Good man! <3

And the armor stat bug was never something widely known so it's possible you didn't know about it.

I'm not the one calling it as such, I read another player here call it that, and it is this:
Armors seem to only fit 8 stat bonuses, which is why we rarely ever see anything with all 4 tower stats drop, especially anything godly with tower radius bonuses. Will the higher-quality loot just bypass this?...

I can confirm the armor stat bug as well.

It seems like when armor spawns it does a "check" for what stat will or will not be on the armor. The process it takes seems to be Hero Stats>Skills>Tower Stats. So if it gets a "yes" for the 4 Hero Stats and "yes" for the 2 skills, it will only be able to run a "check" for the first 2 Tower Stats, therefore reducing the chance of all 4 Tower Stats showing up on armors.

So to speak.

@Hitmonchan: Great patch notes! I was not expecting a new level cap, but does this mean we will still have a cap of 60 Hero Points to put into our stats?

For example PC is level cap of 74 with a cap at 120 for Hero Points.

[Dredd]

Actually, scratch my earlier comment. I'll try to get you guys some answers in tomorrow's Digest. Keep asking away!



Oh Hit I forgot to ask you, " is the Chicken roll being addressed in this patch?" I just do not want to get a low version of the chicken.

[iamisom]

Oh Hit I forgot to ask you, " is the Chicken roll being addressed in this patch?" I just do not want to get a low version of the chicken.

I think it's safe to say that if it isn't in the patch notes, it isn't in the patch.

[michael1765]

hitmon by the graphics or whatever you said about the weapons from mistmire does that mean the spiderling cleaver will look like the one from the computer and stuff like that ?

[iamisom]

hitmon by the graphics or whatever you said about the weapons from mistmire does that mean the spiderling cleaver will look like the one from the computer and stuff like that ?

I do believe so. :^)

[NLe]

Wait wait wait.

Squire Towers are a bit less damaging but no up to Mage towers?
Edit: Nvm


Thanks for the info yet again.

[Iyashii]

You'll have to refresh my memory on the armor stat bug.

My previous post here (http://forums.trendyent.com/showthread.php?45416-Console-Patch-Notes&p=332379&viewfull=1#post332379) explains it a bit.

[michael1765]

cool so is tomorrow when your going to be announcing the newest event aswell ?

[TheszNuts]

Will the patch affect the current values on "perfect-level" items? It might stop a lot of people playing until the patch arrives it the current perfect item list is going to be outdated.

Why you fix Treasure Hunt skipping? D:

[XEQU]

great to hear finally a patch is rolling out.
but theres no word about cheater/modder/hacker ... what about them ?
is there anything , just forgotten ?

[wooden sentinel]

the question is ....why better gear if there is no difficulty raise ?

["Bad Jue Jue" xbox]

So I read the whole thing and all I have to say is WHEN? I am also pretty impressed I did not expect this much TE came through in the clutch:)

[Iyashii]

the question is ....why better gear if there is no difficulty raise ?

With a level cap increase we, I assume, would need higher quality items to appeal to those level caps.
Currently the best items are what, level 60 requirement? Doesn't make much sense for a level 78 to be stuck using gear for level 60.

[Walsh]

WAIT, no getting rid of hacked stuff?

[Droma]

will the next 3 dlc (eternia shards) require the new high level equip for insane?

[Zero_BladeZ]

YES YES YES YES YES!

Been waiting forever!

Thanks Hitmonchan and the Technical team of 3 people
:D

[michael1765]

Hitmonchan right please answer my final question you said the dlc desert town is on it do you mean its on the patch so we get it through the patch or its available to download the same time as the patch and when is the patch out ?

[iamisom]

Hitmonchan right please answer my final question you said the dlc desert town is on it do you mean its on the patch so we get it through the patch or its available to download the same time as the patch and when is the patch out ?

I can answer one of those right now. It just means that the functionality for the next DLC is on this patch. (Meaning that you should have the weapon skins/effects and the pets for the second DLC instead of waiting for a second patch.) It's just a preparation thing. The next DLC is not included in the patch.

[michael1765]

thankyou

[Zero_BladeZ]

Hey Hitmonchan, Question:

SUPER excited about the upcoming patches us console players will recieve, However I noticed that there is no submission date for the patch, nor is there a release date. So I'm speaking on behalf of those curious cats out there.

When will you guys submit the patch to Sony/Microsoft or release the patch for PS3/360?

[Aveus]

Great news on the patch, alot more than i expected to be honest. Two things I'd like to know is with the increase in level cap will that also mean that we'll then be able to assign more than 70 points per stat? Also does the "added higher-quality items as a result" mean all loot including challenge rewards etc or just drops?

[Cladun]

Wow, most of the things that brought down the game is going to be fixed...And finally my class with my favorite towers will finally be used!
Above: I assume drops, like armor, as playing challenges on insane, no matter what your level, will yield the same reward. I could be wrong though.

[michael1765]

nothing has been said about apprentice towers has it i thought it just said the squire towers are weaker

[Aveus]

nothing has been said about apprentice towers has it i thought it just said the squire towers are weaker

Yes there has. "Tower Attack Rate scaling improved to PC specifications"

[Iyashii]

Yes there has. "Tower Attack Rate scaling improved to PC specifications"

Exactly. That means the Apprentice towers won't be capped at 1 shot per second. They do plenty of damage, but with the attack rate bug they just don't attack fast enough.

Same with the pets, they should attack at the proper rate after the patch.

[AWAKENiiNG]

completely satisfied, thank you hitmonchan and Dev. Team. :)

[Yonathan Arredondo]

sounds okay and all but when are we gonna be able to get the update on our consoles?

[Jaws_420]

One very big question...

I see that the 360 version has had the tavern lock bug fixed...but recently the PS3 has also been effected by this same glitch and there are many reports of the PS3 taverns being raided in the same way.

Will this patch protect the PS3 taverns as well, or only the 360?

[nikoli1ranvier]

Been waiting for this news for a while now. Thank you so much for releasing some details. Looks like my friends and I will fail college though because of your game, but stuff happens lol. I guess i'll wait for my questions till the digest comes out. Just again thank you so much and keep Xbox stuff coming.

[iamisom]

One very big question...

I see that the 360 version has had the tavern lock bug fixed...but recently the PS3 has also been effected by this same glitch and there are many reports of the PS3 taverns being raided in the same way.

Will this patch protect the PS3 taverns as well, or only the 360?

I've heard rumors of this issue affecting the PS3, but I haven't seen any actual reports. Can someone confirm that this has actually happened on the PS3?

Edit: Updated PS3 patch notes -- Fixed case where owners of PS Plus exclusive DLC (Monkey & other Pets) may not have been able to connect sometimes online with other players

[Iyashii]

I've heard rumors of this issue affecting the PS3, but I haven't seen any actual reports. Can someone confirm that this has actually happened on the PS3?...

Classic previously confirmed a case of the Tavern glitch affecting PS3 users. I'd suggest contacting him about it.

[KnowsNoLimits]

Awesome news. This made my day. LVL 78 cap woot! and potential higher quality items.

[Gashen-Sai]

Classic previously confirmed a case of the Tavern glitch affecting PS3 users. I'd suggest contacting him about it.
I don't think he confirmed it rather it was a likely case of accidental tavern unlock.

[xRaPiD_RaiDeRx]

Couldn't ask for anything better. Thanks for all your hard work. Can you post a link to the new weapons or perhaps give us hints?

[KrisZed]

It`s a Patchy! Magnificent work you Trendy scallywags (said in an endearing pirate way)! Woot-Woot! Giraffes down to wave 25, cap raised to 78, and higher-quality items! This is just what console Dungeon Defenders needed! Exclamations!! Squire Towers less damaging *head down* ...how about a new hero with towers/abilities that may counter the attacks of any new and or upcoming mobs *fingers crossed*

Hitmonchan (and fellow Dungeon Defenders),
Any guess for Desert Town`s release?
What is: Tower Attack Rate scaling improved to PC specifications?
What is: Pet Attack Rate scaling improved to PC specifications?
What is: PS3 left analog fix?

[Jaws_420]

I've heard rumors of this issue affecting the PS3, but I haven't seen any actual reports. Can someone confirm that this has actually happened on the PS3?

Edit: Updated PS3 patch notes -- Fixed case where owners of PS Plus exclusive DLC (Monkey & other Pets) may not have been able to connect sometimes online with other players

Best forum thread on the subject ive seen with any details:

http://forums.trendyent.com/showthread.php?42941-Just-got-robbed-of-all-my-things-in-my-tavren

[Jaws_420]

It`s a Patchy! Magnificent work you Trendy scallywags (said in an endearing pirate way)! Woot-Woot! Giraffes down to wave 25, cap raised to 78, and higher-quality items! This is just what console Dungeon Defenders needed! Exclamations!! Squire Towers less damaging *head down* ...how about a new hero with towers/abilities that may counter the attacks of any new and or upcoming mobs *fingers crossed*

Hitmonchan (and fellow Dungeon Defenders),
Any guess for Desert Town`s release?
What is: Tower Attack Rate scaling improved to PC specifications?
What is: Pet Attack Rate scaling improved to PC specifications?
What is: PS3 left analog fix?

The attack rate was glitched in that it could not get any lower than about 1 shot per sec roughly, and teh game was not recognizing partial numbers, so 0.9 was same as 1.0 if i have my info right. This meant that it was pointless to up teh firing rate of anything over 1.0 as it would not register. This means that pets and most of teh Apprentice's towers were not firing near as fast as they do on teh PC version of teh game. Magic missle towers are supposed to be much faster, and therefore actually kind of useful...lol.

[Iyashii]

....Hitmonchan (and fellow Dungeon Defenders),
Any guess for Desert Town`s release?
What is: Tower Attack Rate scaling improved to PC specifications?
What is: Pet Attack Rate scaling improved to PC specifications?
What is: PS3 left analog fix?

1. Basically Apprentice towers will be fixed. Currently they are capped at 1 shot per second. The patch will resolve the issue thus allowing Apprentice towers to attack at their proper rate.

2. Same thing with the pets. Currently there is a bug that does not allow pets to attack at their proper speed. The patch will fix this just like the towers.

3. There is an issue on the PS3 where the left analog would stop working in-game.

[tfmartinez]

yay i hope i can still portal defense on insane agin cuz its soooooo hard even with a team. also wwhen is it coming out

[iamisom]

Would someone be awesome and PM me the details of how to unlock taverns on the PS3? If we can reproduce here in the office, we can probably fix it.

[echo98]

any word on whether there will be auto attack on the consoles? to save my wrists and fingers.

[Iyashii]

Would someone be awesome and PM me the details of how to unlock taverns on the PS3? If we can reproduce here in the office, we can probably fix it.

I've been trying to figure that one out for a while now. Not entirely sure if anyone here would know.
:/


any word on whether there will be auto attack on the consoles? to save my wrists and fingers.

This. That and the "Step to attack" function as well.

[Majikal]

Love the level increase to surpass PC players. I love the tavern lock fix. Love everything except Squire nerf :X *usessquirehimself*

The only thing that could make this patch better is if they increased max stat to 80

[Tkeleth]

Hitmonchan, can you give us any information regarding the patch release date?

If the release date is still unknown, can you give us a rough guess if we *PROMISE* not to bite you in the *** about it later if it's not on the exact date you guessed? P-p-p-p-please?!

Thanks for the patch notes, I'll actually start playing again after it hits!

[Jaws_420]

I didnt say it before, but i did want to thank teh DD team for bringing out teh patch notes. It is greatly appreciated and i cant wait to get back into this game again. ALso thanks Hitmon for being reachable and active in forums. That is big time and you rock.


I have a question.

Are there any plans to raise the forge limit past 10 pages or to increase the mana cap past 15 Million?


Also just an idea - for an future releases or whatnot, if you add new trophies/achievemenst to be unlocked (dont need to appear in teh tavern) taht will bring a lot of people back into the game. Trophy/acheivement hunting is a big deal for many console players, and they will keep playing until they can get them all (at least some of us are like that). Typically DLC released on teh PSN is accompied by new trophies/ahievements, and i do have to say it has been very effective at completely sucking me back into games i was done with, instead of just casually giving it a whirl again. One of teh best examples for this was Borderlands. It introduced a greta amount of trophies for each of its 4 large DLC packs and it final total was around 100 trophies, similar to Burnout Paradise. That was a huge hook, and many trophy hunters seek those games out, not just because they are massively fun (much like DD is), but teh pure thrill of teh trophy hunt is something we take very serious. I love teh patch coming, and i will give DD a greta big test spin after, but without a few high bars to be set and achieve...im afarid teh tedioum may set in quicker than i want it to. Trophies are a great way to alleviate that. Anyway...just my 2 cents...

[xxalucard]

Hitmonchan, can you give us any information regarding the patch release date?

If the release date is still unknown, can you give us a rough guess if we *PROMISE* not to bite you in the *** about it later if it's not on the exact date you guessed? P-p-p-p-please?!



even if you just gave us a ~monthly estimate of when it would be, i'm sure we'd appreciate it. as for now i'm assuming mid-march? but feel free to correct me

[CheckitOut!]

Hello,

I noticed the pets are going to be scaled to the pc specifications. I am wondering if the animus familiars are also going to have multiple projectiles as other pets have. I am on ps3 by the way. Thank you very much.

Edit: Wow got a little ahead of myself and that totally sounded open ended. Didn't even mention the main point being the animus pets. Sorry for whomever read that previous to this edit.

[dabbel619]

Wow that sounds great, thx. I was hoping that they would delete the artwork in the secret tavern room. I can´t stand it how the three not additional characters are starring at me. Every time when I enter this room I can hear the Barbarian laughing: "You bought the console version of this game HarHarHar!"

[TheszNuts]

Would someone be awesome and PM me the details of how to unlock taverns on the PS3? If we can reproduce here in the office, we can probably fix it.
I been trying to find it, but no one on PSN seems to know or want to share it.

[LuCk3e87]

I don't think he confirmed it rather it was a likely case of accidental tavern unlock.

110% sure my tavren was locked as the first thing i did was check that!

[CTR555]

The patch sounds great, I can't wait! Any word on increasing the mana cap above 15mil?

[CinderDragon77]

How about giving us the darkness trap updates, so they can actually be usable, ability to strip elemental immunity and du reduction. As of now they are useless.

And how about the monk aura's lifespan boost, are they coming too?

If the squire towers are getting a tower damage reduction, then are they getting a health boost?

How about the builder buff, if your builder is in during the wave then his towers get a 33% or so boost?

Oh and just read this in another thread, how about a patch for the imp to repair more effectively on high health towers,traps,auras.

How about a reduction to how much it takes to self-heal. The squire takes a few thousand mana just to heal fully or even half fully.

[classic22]

Would someone be awesome and PM me the details of how to unlock taverns on the PS3? If we can reproduce here in the office, we can probably fix it.

Hit,

Mate it's not confirmed, it has "only happened once" and I'm certain it was due to an accidental tavern unlock. PS3 can't simulate that issue like Xbox can due to the save locking.

Hopefully everyone can understand this, but hey if it's happened to anyone else let TE know.

[PenPenguin]

1) Are tower attack rate formulas being changed as well, or just their functionality. Is it possible to know what the actual formula is for calculating the exact final attack rate?

2) What will be the mistymire weapon updates, if it doesn't Retro - are the rewards going to be better or worse?

3) Will the stats of weapons obtained from boss fights and/or challenges be updated for the higher cap? Or will the only way to obtain higher cap equips be from drops/chests/2nd doc?

[iamisom]

Added patch note: Increased the Hero Cap value of all Stats (except for Run Speed) from 70 to 120

[Cladun]

Got one question. Will survival/pure strategy stop at wave 25 or will it continue till wave 30? Wouldn't want to get a giraffe and go back to my tavern without a tavern shop refresh.

[Ricky Reb]

Is the trading system for xbox going to be added in this patch also?

[Gamerxm53]

Sigh... After this patch I have to farm some new-perfect gear?

EDIT: Please address (in detail if possible) on "better loot" Does that mean everyone will have to find the perfect armor again? and other weapons too?

[Iyashii]

Got one question. Will survival/pure strategy stop at wave 25 or will it continue till wave 30? Wouldn't want to get a giraffe and go back to my tavern without a tavern shop refresh.

The survival modes will/should still be 30 waves; the Giraffe will just be awarded on wave 25 instead of wave 30.

["Bad Jue Jue" xbox]

How much will the suggestion thread play a role? How much did the "Patch wish list" play a role? I just was wondering bc I have some questions about maybe getting some of those things in, upping mana count, one button upgrade, trade on 360, are a few but there is some really good stuff in there anyways thanks again. Wanted to know which would be the best place to post for upcoming patches.

[CinderDragon77]

How much will the suggestion thread play a role? How much did the "Patch wish list" play a role? I just was wondering bc I have some questions about maybe getting some of those things in, upping mana count, one button upgrade, trade on 360, are a few but there is some really good stuff in there anyways thanks again. Wanted to know which would be the best place to post for upcoming patches.
I was wondering the same thing for things like the darkness traps DU reduction and elemental strip ability, squire tower health buffs, in wave builder buff, and monk aura lifespan buff.

[alien-_-]

So the chickens upgrade cap will not change?

[LuCk3e87]

Hit,

Mate it's not confirmed, it has "only happened once" and I'm certain it was due to an accidental tavern unlock. PS3 can't simulate that issue like Xbox can due to the save locking.

Hopefully everyone can understand this, but hey if it's happened to anyone else let TE know.

I had multiple ppl in my tavern, when this happened. We just had finished a few games I even had some MSGs from a person asking to trade for one of my weapons if it was unlocked he would have just taken it. Someone else came in and took everything while it was locked. I keep saying that the first thing I did was check to see if my tavern was locked. And it was locked the green check mark was there. But i guess no one is going to believe me until it happens again so I'm just going to have to wait.

[BADASSABE]

Hitmonchan Quick and easy Questions that have been ask by everyone.
Did The patch..
1 Raise The Mana Cap above 15 Million?

2 Include the one button upgrade?

3 Include direct trade on 360?

4 Raise the forge limit past 10 pages?

Yes/No Answers are okay.
Ether way the patch is BadAss

[Majikal]

Added patch note: Increased the Hero Cap value of all Stats (except for Run Speed) from 70 to 120

Yes! This just made my day by Soooooooo much!

[Red_sky1]

surprised at how many people ask when it is comming out

[Deathdealer1877..]

So will weapons have higer upgrade lvls as well along with armor or is it just the armor?

[Majikal]

I think the highest DPS I got with max leveling all my gear and having 0 Hero Base Damage was 10-13k Non-Rage damage with a High Five I got on Medium Orge Crush...It was like 16/21 and had 800-1k damage x3

So Weapon level increase isnt neccessary; Only armors.

[KrisZed]

Hitmonchan Quick and easy Questions that have been ask by everyone.
Did The patch..

1 Raise The Mana Cap above 15 Million?

2 Include the one button upgrade?

3 Include direct trade on 360?

4 Raise the forge limit past 10 pages?

Great questions!
BTW - I think the tavern lock for PS3 can be found by clicking on the crystal and pressing select.

[classic22]

Hitmonchan Quick and easy Questions that have been ask by everyone.
Did The patch..
1 Raise The Mana Cap above 15 Million?

2 Include the one button upgrade?

3 Include direct trade on 360?

4 Raise the forge limit past 10 pages?

Yes/No Answers are okay.
Ether way the patch is BadAss

Wish I could sticky a post! :)

[Majikal]

Lol...Now only if they could give us either nightmare or the counterparts and we'll be completely happy.

[epoz]

"There's a technical issue with the Mistymire pet, so we're unable to bring that to you. Sorry about that!"

after we buy the dlc....

[DaftMav]

Is this patch also coming to Europe simultaneously? We're kinda still waiting on the first Mistymire DLC that the US got in december and we were supposed to be getting in januari. Free even, since we had to wait on the main game for so long.

[Iyashii]

Is this patch also coming to Europe simultaneously? We're kinda still waiting on the first Mistymire DLC that the US got in december and we were supposed to be getting in januari. Free even, since we had to wait on the main game for so long.

More than likely you guys will have to wait.

[Barky]

If I'm not mistaken, the tavern lock glitch (on 360 anyway) is done by unlocking your tavern and then joining someone else game either through recent players or friends list. I overheard some tweens in a pub lobby yesterday talking about it. I'll see if I can't get more info on it. Can't wait for the new patch btw. Sounds like I'll be keeping the part time job and eating PB&J sammies for a few more months! Great work Trendy!

[Iyashii]

If I'm not mistaken, the tavern lock glitch (on 360 anyway) is done by unlocking your tavern and then joining someone else game either through recent players or friends list. I overheard some tweens in a pub lobby yesterday talking about it. I'll see if I can't get more info on it. Can't wait for the new patch btw. Sounds like I'll be keeping the part time job and eating PB&J sammies for a few more months! Great work Trendy!

I'm not going to get into specifics, but that's not how it works.

[o DroW o]

1. Is the game difficulty being raised to match the buffs our heroes get from items and raised level caps? Insane is quite simple as it is with the current hero and item levels.

2. The higher quality items. Is that random drops only, or will the named reward items be improved as well?

Excited about new levels and items, but i do hope theres a use for them other than beating the current content that is already beatable as is.

["Bad Jue Jue" xbox]

Lol...Now only if they could give us either nightmare or the counterparts and we'll be completely happy.
+1 I like it.

[Autec]

Wow, already 10 pages, just a couple quick questions though, and I hope I didn't overlook it, but Are the Animus pets going to be getting Multiple Projectiles like PC? And are Guardians gonna be able to effect more then one tower yet?


EDIT: Oh yeah, and are pets gonna be able to attack the training dummy for number testing yet, Or was that a no go?

[Abyad]

I was really hoping for an auto-attack function (http://forums.trendyent.com/showthread.php?5923-Auto-shoot-for-console-gamers) (hitting R2 constantly gets tired real fast) and maybe better SDTV support (http://forums.trendyent.com/showthread.php?7214-PS3-Split-Screen-text-impossible-to-read&highlight=SDTV) (I can barely read everything on my Widescreen TV, with split-screen it's mostly unreadable, and I don't have this issue with other games).

[absta101]

Increase mana cap above 200/100mil please. Upgrading items costs a lot

[muleyman]

"There's a technical issue with the Mistymire pet, so we're unable to bring that to you. Sorry about that!"

after we buy the dlc.... so does that mean we will get a portion of our microsoft points back since we are not getting all that you specifically advertised.

[durabo]

so does that mean we will get a portion of our microsoft points back since we are not getting all that you specifically advertised.

Yeah, this idea right here is childish and stupid, not even really worth the time it took to post it. But he has a point, we should get something for that shroomite pet!

My girlfriend is gonna be sad she doesn't get it!

How about shoehorning in the unicorn with the DLC?

[classic22]

so does that mean we will get a portion of our microsoft points back since we are not getting all that you specifically advertised.

Have to agree here, I paid for it, I want *something* to show for it.

[KnowsNoLimits]

I think we are lucky to get everything this patch has to offer tbh. I really wasn't expecting this much in the first place. Still If their's one DLC I would want it would be the hero counterparts. I figure since they are pretty much clones of the already existing characters but with new abilities then it may be possible. As the work to port them over would be minimal. Anyway I still can't wait for this new patch. Going to be pretty sweet to level up my existing characters some more.

[yamahahornist]

I was wondering about the hackers?? (xbox 360) It seems like every 2/3 lobbies are filled with hackers. The hackers make it no fun :(

Are you raising the mana bank cap???

[michael1765]

the digest is today and all the answers your looking for will be in it

[Vu Prime]

This is good news indeed. More that we got some patch notes than the patch notes themselves.

Increased level cap and new items sound awesome. Too bad about the shroomite familiar though. Sounded so cool.

Also being able to spec above the 70 to 120 should create more diversity in character builds (in theory). The only concern with the level increase and stat increase is that without a difficulty increase in the game itself, the game may just become too easy.

I think the improved "survival mode" stability should help with the save/corruption issue even though there wasn't technically a "fix" on the corruption issue itself.

I hope the tower attack rate will include fixing the tower sps glitch. Still waiting to see a grouping of rapid fire magic missile towers.

The most exciting note for me would be the improved/fixed connection issues with others that have DLC or PS+ familiars. I'd say I can only connect to about 25% of the people on the list currently. Green ping or not. And of those 25%, I get kicked from at least half of those.... so in theory, I should be able to connect to at least 5 times more people. That would simply be amazing!

Not being able to get Trophies on secondary accounts is pretty bogus in my opinion. Not to compare but it doesn't seem to be a problem on the 360 side. I dunno why Sony has a problem with it.

[epoz]

so does that mean we will get a portion of our microsoft points back since we are not getting all that you specifically advertised.

i dont think so :squire:

[sefjwm]

So since we didn't get what was advertised (yet again) are we getting any sort of discount, refund, bonus content?

[DarkAssassin103]

So if i understand correctly, the squire towers are going to be nerfed and the apprentice towers are gonna be buffed, does that mean that the apprentice towers will be alot more helpful than the squire towers?

[XBM Yosho]

Yeah, this idea right here is childish and stupid, not even really worth the time it took to post it. But he has a point, we should get something for that shroomite pet!

My girlfriend is gonna be sad she doesn't get it!

How about shoehorning in the unicorn with the DLC?

How was that childish and stupid? If we were told that you get something, and Trendy has stated we cannot give what we said we would give you, Then we deserve something in terms of compensation. That is how proper business works all over the world and is what is expected from consumers world wide regardless of the company and or product.

Now all that being said, They simply said there was a technical issue preventing them from bringing us the pet, Perhaps they will have it worked out for the next patch, We don't know.

[excaluber]

The Apprentice towers will be vastly more helpful, But they won't under any circumstances be a replacement, The most important thing I personally think is rapid fire MM towers, But Squire towers will still be a core "backbone" for many builds, IMO.

Maybe i'm over looking it, but where does it say that apprentice towers will be buffed?

[XBM Yosho]

Maybe i'm over looking it, but where does it say that apprentice towers will be buffed?

This is what is refered to,

"Tower Attack Rate scaling improved to PC specifications"

When this goes live, Apprentice towers will no longer be a useless pile of.. uhhh, Anywho, Magic Missle towers will be super sweet :)

[Gamerxm53]

It says the ROF will be scaled near pc specifications


Gamerxm53

[KrisZed]

Hitmonchan Quick and easy Questions... Raise the forge limit past 10 pages?

For the PC--Item folders for both your Item Box and Hero Shop! These can be sub-foldered (with viewable paths), and they support new item and folder mouse drag-&-drop interaction (as do the buttons). CLICK FOR PICTURE (http://dungeondefenders.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/FolderSystem1.jpg)
Console players need these folders before new characters. It's like needing toilet paper before taking a deuce. What a mess!

[Gamerxm53]

@KrisZed Yes! That would be a very good and simple idea.


Gamerxm53

[Iyashii]

so does that mean we will get a portion of our microsoft points back since we are not getting all that you specifically advertised.

No. The new items and pets from the DLC was not included within the purchase of the DLC. Trendy stated that, once the patch hits, that they will add new items/pet as a bonus and will be obtainable on the DLC map.


Maybe i'm over looking it, but where does it say that apprentice towers will be buffed?

There were a couple posts earlier, including mine, that explained this.
Basically the App towers are bugged and do not attack as fast as they should. They are plenty strong, but they are just too slow because of their bug.

[muleyman]

Yeah, this idea right here is childish and stupid, not even really worth the time it took to post it. But he has a point, we should get something for that shroomite pet!

My girlfriend is gonna be sad she doesn't get it!

How about shoehorning in the unicorn with the DLC?
Childish and stupid? So this is where we are as a society now , Companies no longer have to provide what they advertise for the money we pay as consumers. I am sorry but this concept does not fly with me, I paid my money for said dlc and still have not gotten to use my reward weapons nor will I get my pet. I realize the patch will supposedly fix the weapons (I hope). But I have made my purchase and they did not deliver the content and I am by right some restitution. On facebook even I had some jackal from trendy tell me they never advertised any weapon or pet , when I have made clear examples of them doing so in interviews in ign ,to the actual trailers stating " unique weapons and pet". So if you want to roll over and take it then more power to you, but I still believe in holding companies Liable to their end of the deal as well as you should to, thiscan lead to even more dishonest and shady habits and tactics than they already have done. Once again sorry if this goes over your head bud.

[muleyman]

Post a link to them stating that the items were not included , because in their trailer aka the advertisement for the dlc. it does state this, plus just because you go back to a forum after the fact does not cover you from the ads you show the general public.

[Iyashii]

....So this is where we are as a society now , Companies no longer have to provide what they advertise for the money we pay as consumers.....

The new items/pet were never advertised with the DLC. Trendy stated those new items/pet will be added with the first patch as a bonus and are not part of the purchase.

If you don't believe me you can check the listing of the DLC.

[muleyman]

The new items/pet were never advertised with the DLC. Trendy stated those new items/pet will be added with the first patch as a bonus and are not part of the purchase.

If you don't believe me you can check the listing of the DLC.

where in their trailer ad for the dlc does it state that there were no items or pet


check here http://youtu.be/Eni0iUm9tLI and in the listing it does indeed state new items...

http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/Product/The-Quest-for-the-Lost-Eternia-Shards-Part-1/b19aab5c-5015-4e30-be4e-91609b58b4bf des at bottom

[XBM Yosho]

The new items/pet were never advertised with the DLC. Trendy stated those new items/pet will be added with the first patch as a bonus and are not part of the purchase.

If you don't believe me you can check the listing of the DLC.

Yet they will not being giving us the pet that stated they would give us during the first patch, Even though it was originally supposed to be in the initial DLC, Bringing it to console had technical issues, Once again the same "technical" issues prevent the pet from showing face in the patch as-well, HMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!

[muleyman]

The new items/pet were never advertised with the DLC. Trendy stated those new items/pet will be added with the first patch as a bonus and are not part of the purchase.

If you don't believe me you can check the listing of the DLC. another thing pal the whole shroomite being a "bonus" is BS even in a interview Jeremy Stieglitz talks about the pet being in the dlc, not a bonus later with a patch.

[sefjwm]

Yeah I'm getting tired of the whole they never advertised it argument. It's been shown over and over they did. I collect pets and it was the main reason I bought the DLC. I didn't care about the new weapons. I wanted the pet, the airplane levels and to fight sharks.

[AWAKENiiNG]

complain, complain, complain. Is that all you guys ever do? be happy with what you have. It's an arcade game for christ's sake!

[TheszNuts]

complain, complain, complain. Is that all you guys ever do? be happy with what you have. It's an arcade game for christ's sake!You're not accounting most people think Trendy has the same capabilites as someone like Activision.

[Iyashii]

where in their trailer ad for the dlc does it state that there were no items or pet


check here http://youtu.be/Eni0iUm9tLI and in the listing it does indeed state new items...

http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/Product/The-Quest-for-the-Lost-Eternia-Shards-Part-1/b19aab5c-5015-4e30-be4e-91609b58b4bf des at bottom

My point is they were not included within the purchase of the DLC. The DLC does offer new loot without a patch, but not new items. Yes there is a difference between the two.

The video if from the PC and as such it is a PC advertisement.
The article you linked isn't even by Trendy and misquotes from the interview with Jeremy.


Yet they will not being giving us the pet that stated they would give us during the first patch, Even though it was originally supposed to be in the initial DLC, Bringing it to console had technical issues, Once again the same "technical" issues prevent the pet from showing face in the patch as-well, HMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!

I'm sure when the issue is resolved the pet will be added in a patch and won't cost you anything, considering the DLC did not contain the pet to begin with.


another thing pal the whole shroomite being a "bonus" is BS even in a interview Jeremy Stieglitz talks about the pet being in the dlc, not a bonus later with a patch.

The interview with Jeremy is almost 100% pertaining to the PC version. He does mention consoles at a part, but it is an interview of the PC version.


Yeah I'm getting tired of the whole they never advertised it argument. It's been shown over and over they did. I collect pets and it was the main reason I bought the DLC. I didn't care about the new weapons. I wanted the pet, the airplane levels and to fight sharks.

It was showed from the PC. Because you purchased it on a different platform does not mean you are entitled to everything else a different platform gets.




complain, complain, complain. Is that all you guys ever do? be happy with what you have. It's an arcade game for christ's sake!
You're not accounting most people think Trendy has the same capabilites as someone like Activision.

Everyone who purchased DD, regardless of platform, should have found enough enjoyment from the $15 purchase. Unless you didn't like the game everyone complaining just want's more stuff for free. It's disgusting.

[muleyman]

complain, complain, complain. Is that all you guys ever do? be happy with what you have. It's an arcade game for christ's sake! yup so your one of those roll over and die folks, I do not care if it is a arcade game or not, first 5 dollars then 50 etc... no way

[AWAKENiiNG]

You're not accounting most people think Trendy has the same capabilites as someone like Activision.
lol true

[muleyman]

My point is they were not included within the purchase of the DLC. The DLC does offer new loot without a patch, but not new items. Yes there is a difference between the two.

The video if from the PC and as such it is a PC advertisement.
The article you linked isn't even by Trendy and misquotes from the interview with Jeremy.



I'm sure when the issue is resolved the pet will be added in a patch and won't cost you anything, considering the DLC did not contain the pet to begin with.



The interview with Jeremy is almost 100% pertaining to the PC version. He does mention consoles at a part, but it is an interview of the PC version.



It was showed from the PC. Because you purchased it on a different platform does not mean you are entitled to everything else a different platform gets. you are so full of it dude, the video at the end clearly shows a release date for consoles pal try again, and link me to where he was misquoted, because I have never seen a argument for this, so please provide some proof. And if it was only PC interview why is it in the xbox section of IGN. You can be a apologist if you want but i need a lil more proof than just your word or better yet your opinion.

[muleyman]

You're not accounting most people think Trendy has the same capabilites as someone like Activision. No I for one do not, but to play with the big boys you have to follow the same rule as they do. And if they offer it and do not make good, then it is their fault period.

[KrisZed]

I ran across a great interview with Jeremy Stieglitz (Co-Founder, Development Director and CTO of Trendy Entertainment) that I hadn't seen before. Talks about loot, levels and plans for the future. Here's the link for those that may have missed it too: CLICK FOR INTERVIEW (http://pc.ign.com/articles/121/1214776p1.html)
Sure hope consoles get the Legendary Archmage, Ranger, Templar, Knight campaign when it comes out. You can see them at the end of the trailer (same link as above), around the 2:00 minute mark.

[muleyman]

I ran across a great interview with Jeremy Stieglitz (Co-Founder, Development Director and CTO of Trendy Entertainment) that I hadn't seen before. Talks about loot, levels and plans for the future. Here's the link for those that may have missed it too: CLICK FOR INTERVIEW (http://pc.ign.com/articles/121/1214776p1.html)
Sure hope consoles get the Legendary Archmage, Ranger, Templar, Knight campaign when it comes out. You can see them at the end of the trailer (same link as above), around the 2:00 minute mark. yup it would be great but i doubt it though, the trailer does in fact state consoles as well too.

[Iyashii]

you are so full of it dude, the video at the end clearly shows a release date for consoles pal try again, and link me to where he was misquoted, because I have never seen a argument for this, so please provide some proof. And if it was only PC interview why is it in the xbox section of IGN. You can be a apologist if you want but i need a lil more proof than just your word or better yet your opinion.

Could Trendy have been more clear on their advertising for DD? Of course. I was constantly badgering Trendy because they would not differentiate between what version they are releasing information about.
This of course has changed since Hitmonchan became the Community Manager.

So you are pissed because a trailer of DD was from the PC, but was posted by a third party website and listed it for consoles?
Again just because the trailer lists a console release date the trailer is from the PC. This belongs to my first point about about Trendy not differentiating between versions.

[muleyman]

[QUOTE=Iyashii;333946]Could Trendy have been more clear on their advertising for DD? Of course. I was constantly badgering Trendy because they would not differentiate between what version they are releasing information about.
This of course has changed since Hitmonchan became the Community Manager.

So you are pissed because a trailer of DD was from the PC, but was posted by a third party website and listed it for consoles?



OMG dude no I am mad the Trailer it self says it is for consoles too with a release date .Has nothing to do with third party anything your reaching man really.

[Iyashii]

OMG dude no I am mad the Trailer it self says it is for consoles too with a release date .Has nothing to do with third party anything your reaching man really.

Then why quote articles if they aren't relevant?

Trendy used gameplay from PC to make a trailer of their newest DLC and, since it will be releasing on consoles too, they added a release date for the DLC.

[WiredRM]

Please, please, please patch in the PC group XP sharing (if not already planned). I play the console version whenever I have company over, which tends to result in my characters being a much higher level than theirs (not to mention that I've been playing the game since release, while my friends only play it when they stop by). Implementing XP sharing would greatly increase the enjoyment that we would have playing it!

[muleyman]

Then why quote articles if they aren't relevant?

Trendy used gameplay from PC to make a trailer of their newest DLC and, since it will be releasing on consoles too, they added a release date for the DLC.

Are you aware that Microsoft used gameplay from other platforms for their commercials? yes sir and it makes them just as liable, and all the articles are relevant, because he comes on a forum and clarifies to a small percentage of consumers does not make it a rectified situation , the trailer states it, he never states in the article that it is solely for Pc therefor it is all relevant. And as for your statement on the trailer, it doesn't matter what they used to show gameplay it is a ad for the dlc across all platforms it addresses, did you know most games we see being demoed on shows and in early previews is all on pc as well, but hmm I guess that makes it irrelevant as well.

[KrisZed]

yup it would be great but i doubt it though, the trailer does in fact state consoles as well too.

Dungeon Defenders must be strong, not doubtful! It would be a shame if consoles don't get the Legendary character campaign. For the sake of being able to sleep... it will be released on all platforms!

[sefjwm]

The one video I had was from the PS3 version. All of the video was from the PS3 version too. As for the DLC regardless of what version it was filmed on it was advertised to the PS3 version. In the print interview the questions covered all versions so I'll give them a pass for that.

[muleyman]

So, sorry bud but my stance will not change no matter how blue in the face you get trying to change it.

[Iyashii]

yes sir and it makes them just as liable, and all the articles are relevant, because he comes on a forum and clarifies to a small percentage of consumers does not make it a rectified situation , the trailer states it, he never states in the article that it is solely for Pc therefor it is all relevant.

Firstly I apologize for the Mircosoft example. That's not applicable and hence why I deleted it from my original post.

Back to point, if you check the DLC listing it will not reflect new items/pet. Those, while are advertised in the DLC, are not within the purchase for console users due to patching restraints. As such Trendy let us know that we will get those items once the patch hits. To avoid any legal backlash, though, Trendy was forced to remove those items from the original purchase of the DLC.


The one video I had was from the PS3 version. All of the video was from the PS3 version too. As for the DLC regardless of what version it was filmed on it was advertised to the PS3 version. In the print interview the questions covered all versions so I'll give them a pass for that.

Which is my one gripe that they need to be more clear on the versions.
The original trailers for DD are the PS3 version and is what really caught my eye before it released.

That being said the video in questions is clearly on the PC. The movements and removal of the HUD is an easy example to prove it.

[muleyman]

Firstly I apologize for the Mircosoft example. That's not applicable and hence why I deleted it from my original post.

Back to point, if you check the DLC listing it will not reflect new items/pet. Those, while are advertised in the DLC, are not within the purchase for console users due to patching restraints. As such Trendy let us know that we will get those items once the patch hits. To avoid any legal backlash, though, Trendy was forced to remove those items from the original purchase of the DLC. Dude i am sorry but enjoy your life man because i already linked the dlc description from the xbox main site that says that there are, but if you wanna ignore facts fine man , we just plain agree to disagree, I do not want anyone to change their opinion on the matter if you truly feel this way, but do not try to change mine as I have all the real evidence I need.

[sefjwm]

Heck even classic agrees this time and he's been by far the staunchest "they didn't advertise it" defender out of anyone.

That's what I'm referring to. First vids were PS3 versions which promised cross platform play and full Steam support. New vids are PC but in the print article he always points out the PC when he talks about something PC only. 3 maps, weapons, and new pet were for all consoles.

[Iyashii]

Dude i am sorry but enjoy your life man because i already linked the dlc description from the xbox main site that says that there are, but if you wanna ignore facts fine man , we just plain agree to disagree, I do not want anyone to change their opinion on the matter if you truly feel this way, but do not try to change mine as I have all the real evidence I need.

So it's impossible for sites to misquote a source? Or, for that matter, it's impossible for a person to make a mistake and say something that can be taken wrong?

I honestly don't care what your opinion is nor do I care to try and change it. But when you are on the forums stating your opinion as fact and spreading misconceptions then yes, I do take it to point that out.

[muleyman]

they are NOT misconceptions and link me where he was stated as being misquoted.

[sefjwm]

If it was one time we'd give them a pass but anybody involved with this game from the very beginning knows this keeps happening over and over again. I know multiple well respected players completely frustrated by the support they've shown for this game just to get screwed when Trendy goes back on it's word.

[muleyman]

^ this Agree 100%

[Iyashii]

they are NOT misconceptions and link me where he was stated as being misquoted.

Here's the quote from the site you linked:

Prepare to venture outside into the realms of Etheria in The Quest for the Lost Eternia Shards! Experience 3 all new missions, story cinematics, enemies, and more: This DLC Pack contains: * “The Quest for the Lost Eternia Shards: Part 1” Campaign Mission * “Portal Defense” Challenge Mission * “Lifestream Tree” PvP Battleground * Spiderling Enemy * Queen Spider Boss * New items to loot Dungeon Defenders is a tower defense, action-RPG that sets you on an epic adventure to protect the Eternia Crystals! Create heroes from one of four classes to fight across a full campaign or horde of survival/challenge missions! Level your heroes, raise and trade pets, collect loot, forge equipment and more! Play with up to 4 friends via local and online multiplayer!

Take note of the errors. Some of them aren't even proper sentences. It looks like it was cut/pasted and posted. I can't honestly take it serious.

As for the trailer; where are the adult heroes? The trailer clearly showed adult heroes, but we don't have them. Where are the other maps at too? The trailer clearly showed other maps that we didn't get.


If it was one time we'd give them a pass but anybody involved with this game from the very beginning knows this keeps happening over and over again. I know multiple well respected players completely frustrated by the support they've shown for this game just to get screwed when Trendy goes back on it's word.

While this may be true, from my perspective and experience Trendy has done more for their community that most game companies.

[heliosneon]

To any and all who are crying about not getting the shroomite or wanting points back. At least on the 360 version the description of the download says nothing about a pet, just items. So don't start demanding stuff unless you read up on it. Also you should be happy with the awesome fairy you can get. At least thats something.

[muleyman]

and? That is not him being Misquoted, again here's the link for the last time , notice it is in the xbox section.

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/121/1214783p1.html

[VivaFathom]

Snip...

Completely agree, DD is my GOTY for 2011 but the support and misleading has been a diabolical joke so much so that i'm definatly going to think twice before i buy more DLC or games from Trendy.

[durabo]

My point in saying that it is childish and stupid to even ***** about Trendy giving refunds out is that will never happen, so why even sit there and bring it up and whine?

Trendy doesn't have the logistical ability, nor the need to go giving out any sort of refund because one pet is missing from the DLC. I am not getting into the whole "what was promised and advertised" argument, because I could care less. I got my $20 bucks worth from the game and DLC even without the shroomite pet. It'd be nice to have, and I'm sure that if it is possible Trendy will fit it in, or something extra to make up for it if and when they can... but if they don't I'm not going to sit here and ***** about it.

Be an adult, enjoy what we HAVE and stop trying to make all of these demands on a hard working team. They have given us a game MUCH larger than anyone (including themselves) ever anticipated and are still trying to support it. They could have easily dropped support like 90% of developers right after release, taken their quick cash grab and started work on another game, just like most of the other downloadable game Devs do.

They are probably pretty bittersweet about their game right about now, supremely proud at the success while at the same time realizing WHY most Devs stop supporting and communicating with the community, consumers want everything and refuse to accept when things don't work out the way they want the first time.

Deal with it, enjoy the game that you have, stop whining about things that aren't realistic. It wouldn't hurt you to show a tiny bit of gratitude to this team who hit a ball out of the park on their first swing.

["Bad Jue Jue" xbox]

You didnt read the post about the check is in the mail?

[muleyman]

Sorry but not good enough, Where is it in this world we are just suppose to let them off the hook, cause they work hard. That is what most any and hopefully all of us here do for our money. As far as your adult quote, Being unhappy as a consumer when I do not get what is advertised is not childish nor will I stop doing so. I hold every company responsible for their own Ads and practices as I hold myself responsible for mine. I have been this way 33 years and will do so til I am in the ground. Gratitude you must be silly. I will give them no gratitude for their work for this console community, sorry.

[durabo]

Sorry but not good enough, Where is it in this world we are just suppose to let them off the hook, cause they work hard. That is what most any and hopefully all of us here do for our money. As far as your adult quote, Being unhappy as a consumer when I do not get what is advertised is not childish nor will I stop doing so. I hold every company responsible for their own Ads and practices as I hold myself responsible for mine. I have been this way 33 years and will do so til I am in the ground. Gratitude you must be silly. I will give them no gratitude for their work for this console community, sorry.

enjoy your temper tantrum and game.

[muleyman]

I haven't gotten mad once bro, enjoy yours as well

[heliosneon]

I haven't gotten mad once bro, enjoy yours as well


You've done nothing but be pissy the whole time and for no reason too. I've seen more crying since the patch notes came out than before when we were waiting for them. So take your crying self off of here get your facts straight then come back after you have had your timeout in the corner.

[muleyman]

theres a major difference between pissy and spirited conversation pal, sorry you do not know the difference. Also why the hostility over a forum man, and my facts are just fine pal I simply quoted interviews and linked a video.

[muleyman]

Have to agree here, I paid for it, I want *something* to show for it. BTW I meant to say I agree with you whole heartedly

[at2ocity]

Just curious, when those who don't care about broken products:

1- Go to the Market, do you buy expired foods, because they're on the shelf? And when you find out later you bought one by accident, do you eat it, because you're not a "child" but an adult?

2- Go to the Car Dealership of your choice, take the dealer's word on everything, and buy a car. 2 weeks later you find out car has issues, because you're an "adult" you keep the car?

3- Insert a thousand other scenarios.

My point is this, just because you get something that's not working properly, and because you think you're an adult, doesn't make everyone else childish for finding a problem with the product. Actually, it just makes you look ignorant, and biased. If you're fine with the product, good for you, but I'm not, and you don't see me trolling on forums, just because you don't agree with me. In fact, I edit/delete alot of posts, after I realize that I wrote it without thinking, or feeling like it didn't sound right. spamming a multitude of posts doesn't make you look cooler or smarter.

[heliosneon]

Just curious, when those who don't care about broken products:

1- Go to the Market, do you buy expired foods, because they're on the shelf? And when you find out later you bought one, do you eat it, because you're not a "child" but an adult?

2- Go to the Car Dealership of your choice, take the dealer's word on everything, and buy a car. 2 weeks later you find out car has issues, because you're an "adult" you keep the car?

3- Insert a thousand other scenarios.

My point is this, just because you get something that's not working properly, and because you think you're an adult, doesn't make everyone else childish for finding a problem with the product. Actually, it just makes you look ignorant, and biased. If you're fine with the product, good for you, but I'm not, and you don't see me trolling on forums, just because you don't agree with me.



That is not a valid response. Look I am no fan of any game developers at all. I will say that even before the dlc came out they stated that there would be a patch for the dlc because the items and all that would not be available. Read up on stuff before you buy it.

[AnyaMirskii]

Just curious, when those who don't care about broken products:

1- Go to the Market, do you buy expired foods, because they're on the shelf? And when you find out later you bought one by accident, do you eat it, because you're not a "child" but an adult?

2- Go to the Car Dealership of your choice, take the dealer's word on everything, and buy a car. 2 weeks later you find out car has issues, because you're an "adult" you keep the car?

3- Insert a thousand other scenarios.

My point is this, just because you get something that's not working properly, and because you think you're an adult, doesn't make everyone else childish for finding a problem with the product. Actually, it just makes you look ignorant, and biased. If you're fine with the product, good for you, but I'm not, and you don't see me trolling on forums, just because you don't agree with me. In fact, I edit/delete alot of posts, after I realize that I wrote it without thinking, or feeling like it didn't sound right. spamming a multitude of posts doesn't make you look cooler or smarter.

I so wish we had a "Bless" system on these forums right now... This +10000.

[durabo]

Just curious, when those who don't care about broken products:

1- Go to the Market, do you buy expired foods, because they're on the shelf? And when you find out later you bought one by accident, do you eat it, because you're not a "child" but an adult?

2- Go to the Car Dealership of your choice, take the dealer's word on everything, and buy a car. 2 weeks later you find out car has issues, because you're an "adult" you keep the car?

3- Insert a thousand other scenarios.

My point is this, just because you get something that's not working properly, and because you think you're an adult, doesn't make everyone else childish for finding a problem with the product. Actually, it just makes you look ignorant, and biased. If you're fine with the product, good for you, but I'm not, and you don't see me trolling on forums, just because you don't agree with me. In fact, I edit/delete alot of posts, after I realize that I wrote it without thinking, or feeling like it didn't sound right. spamming a multitude of posts doesn't make you look cooler or smarter.

Right, so you have a problem with the product. Trendy is not withholding a fix, they are giving us the patches they can, when they can, in the most responsible way possible in the situation. They DON'T have the ability to give you a refund, they DON'T have the ability to patch every single week like on the PC. Frankly I am glad they waited this long for a patch, I would rather have a well thought out patch than a rushed rebalance based on the demands of whiny forum users like the PC gets all the time.

You are rather short sighted in what actually can be done here, and what actually helps the situation. There is a point in time where the adult thing to do is stop crying and cut your losses.

[heliosneon]

Right, so you have a problem with the product. Trendy is not withholding a fix, they are giving us the patches they can, when they can, in the most responsible way possible in the situation. They DON'T have the ability to give you a refund, they DON'T have the ability to patch every single week like on the PC. Frankly I am glad they waited this long for a patch, I would rather have a well thought out patch than a rushed rebalance based on the demands of whiny forum users like the PC gets all the time.


You are rather short sighted in what actually can be done here, and what actually helps the situation. There is a point in time where the adult thing to do is stop crying and cut your losses.



I love you haha. Best reply ever. I just wish other people would open their eyes. Trendy is by no means perfect but they are trying. Plus remember that they are a new company and are still learning as they go.

[AWAKENiiNG]

Just curious, when those who don't care about broken products:

1- Go to the Market, do you buy expired foods, because they're on the shelf? And when you find out later you bought one by accident, do you eat it, because you're not a "child" but an adult?

2- Go to the Car Dealership of your choice, take the dealer's word on everything, and buy a car. 2 weeks later you find out car has issues, because you're an "adult" you keep the car?

3- Insert a thousand other scenarios.

My point is this, just because you get something that's not working properly, and because you think you're an adult, doesn't make everyone else childish for finding a problem with the product. Actually, it just makes you look ignorant, and biased. If you're fine with the product, good for you, but I'm not, and you don't see me trolling on forums, just because you don't agree with me. In fact, I edit/delete alot of posts, after I realize that I wrote it without thinking, or feeling like it didn't sound right. spamming a multitude of posts doesn't make you look cooler or smarter.

it's funny because it's not the same at all, this is a "game" were we seek entertainment, comparing it to rotten food is just ridiculous. The game isn't broken, you were just spoiled as a child and now you just want, want, want.

[Turtle23]

I'm a little new to the game and I have a question. I just read that they are Increasing the Hero Cap value of all Stats (except for Run Speed) from 70 to 120. I thought the Hero Cap was 50 except for Run Speed which is 20. Did I read something wrong thinking it was capped at 50?

Turtle out

[Jaws_420]

Wow...

In case no one read the thread title, this thread is for discussion on the patch. If you want to have a flame war on whether or not you got ripped off, take it into a new thread. Stay on subject. No one wants to read your back and forth complaining and insults. It makes all of you involved looked childish, no matter how much explaining you do.

Back to teh patch...

For any of those who keep posting and asking about teh other charcters, whther it is the alt gender, older version heroes, or teh future relases like barbarian, you may want to sit down and read the thread about the console support. We are not getting new characters. It may happen waaaaaaay down teh road, so keep a wishful flame buried in your heart if you want, but you can stop asking where they are and if this patch will have them. It wont. It makes me sad too though, id love to see em as well.

I really wish we get a forge page number and mana cap upgrade. These are limitations that hurt post game players. I like the idea of folders within the forge. That would be great on console if they could make it work. A little oraganization along with more room would really open up my item hunting.

I also hope that putting tower speed for teh Apprentice in teh right will make that class much more usable. Its sad we dont have a power buff, but without testing teh new speed, its hard to tell how effective this change will be overall for teh class. Still, DSTs for their cost and ROF really should do more damage than almost all of teh squire's towers, so i still think the Apprentice needs a little love to be a go to class. This fix really only buffs teh magic missels it seems so far. Monk auras too, as their life span is such a hinderance to effectively use them without a dedicated run around and heal aura character.

It would be cool if you could choose a second hero instead of a pet to be your helper and give them a auto command like "heal auras" and they could just do that all agme. A bodyguard that is non-human controlled. Kind of like in Dynsaty Warriors. It just follows you around and does simple commands. Just a far fetched idea...

I still think we need more trophies/achievements. If i had teh excat same game with no patches or DLC, i would still play like mad if we simply got more trophies to unlock. You could make them mirror teh console challenges ro anything weird they could dream up to get you to play teh game in a new and exciting way. It would keep things fresh and fun to me. But im a tropy addict... so i may be a bit biased on teh subject, lol.

[oskas]

Monk auras too, as their life span is such a hinderance to effectively use them without a dedicated run around and heal aura character.

This is what I came to this thread to ask. Nice.

Does the patch address the immune mobs still ticking away at auras life?

[AWAKENiiNG]

Wow...

In case no one read the thread title, this thread is for discussion on the patch. If you want to have a flame war on whether or not you got ripped off, take it into a new thread. Stay on subject. No one wants to read your back and forth complaining and insults. It makes all of you involved looked childish, no matter how much explaining you do.

Back to teh patch...

For any of those who keep posting and asking about teh other charcters, whther it is the alt gender, older version heroes, or teh future relases like barbarian, you may want to sit down and read the thread about the console support. We are not getting new characters. It may happen waaaaaaay down teh road, so keep a wishful flame buried in your heart if you want, but you can stop asking where they are and if this patch will have them. It wont. It makes me sad too though, id love to see em as well.

I really wish we get a forge page number and mana cap upgrade. These are limitations that hurt post game players. I like the idea of folders within the forge. That would be great on console if they could make it work. A little oraganization along with more room would really open up my item hunting.

I also hope that putting tower speed for teh Apprentice in teh right will make that class much more usable. Its sad we dont have a power buff, but without testing teh new speed, its hard to tell how effective this change will be overall for teh class. Still, DSTs for their cost and ROF really should do more damage than almost all of teh squire's towers, so i still think the Apprentice needs a little love to be a go to class. This fix really only buffs teh magic missels it seems so far. Monk auras too, as their life span is such a hinderance to effectively use them without a dedicated run around and heal aura character.

It would be cool if you could choose a second hero instead of a pet to be your helper and give them a auto command like "heal auras" and they could just do that all agme. A bodyguard that is non-human controlled. Kind of like in Dynsaty Warriors. It just follows you around and does simple commands. Just a far fetched idea...

I still think we need more trophies/achievements. If i had teh excat same game with no patches or DLC, i would still play like mad if we simply got more trophies to unlock. You could make them mirror teh console challenges ro anything weird they could dream up to get you to play teh game in a new and exciting way. It would keep things fresh and fun to me. But im a tropy addict... so i may be a bit biased on teh subject, lol.
I am at fault, but i agree 100%.
I for one hope they do increase mana bank cap.

[Jaws_420]

Oh, i just had a though. Why not release teh monkey as an obtainable pet for everyone? Hasnt teh PS+, sorry i mean Sony+ (name change joke, ha ha, ahem...) players have exclusive rights to this pet for long enough? The code and animation is obviously already there for use, so why not make that pet avaiable to everyone now? It would satisfy teh Shroomite issue for a good while and give us something new. id love to get a high powered version of one. Just have to turn teh sound down as teh banana shooting noise makes me want to drive nails into my ears. Kind of like firing teh chicken egg gun...ha ha ha

[Iyashii]

Things that should be considered in the patch:

Monk Aura health issue resolved

Ability to increase/decrease Trap/Aura radius

Increase mana cap

Mana exploits resolved

Ability to toggle on/off of Auto attack and/or Step Forward

Resolvent of loot system; more to PC specifications if possible

Armor Stat bug resolved

Microphone cutout/high sensitivity resolved

Animus extra projectiles

Guardian area of effect

Imps closer to PC specifications if possible


If these issues can be considered/included it would greatly improve the feedback towards DD and the patch itself.

[AWAKENiiNG]

Ability to increase/decrease Trap/Aura radius
what exactly do you mean?

[oskas]

what exactly do you mean?

On the PC version, when placing an aura, you can adjust the size of it using the + or - key.

It would be nice that while placing the auras on console you could use the left or right d-pad to increase or decrease the aura size.

[James-]

Sorry if this is a stupid question but I thought I would ask it here because I do not believe it will be in the digest.

The patch states that pet attack rate will be scaled to the PC specifications however the guardians do not have this stat and it is replaced by the number of towers they can effect at one time. Will this be changed on console to the max of 5 towers like on the PC version (If it already is I feel stupid but I have been assuming the triple star icon is the number of towers it effects and I have never seen it on a console pet).

Also Thanks for the Patch! IDC what others say, for a $15.00 game (which I got on sale for $10) I don't even expect patches unless something is corrupt.

[AWAKENiiNG]

On the PC version, when placing an aura, you can adjust the size of it using the + or - key.

It would be nice that while placing the auras on console you could use the left or right d-pad to increase or decrease the aura size.
oh ok thanks i did not know that.

[Iyashii]

Sorry if this is a stupid question but I thought I would ask it here because I do not believe it will be in the digest.

The patch states that pet attack rate will be scaled to the PC specifications however the guardians do not have this stat and it is replaced by the number of towers they can effect at one time. Will this be changed on console to the max of 5 towers like on the PC version (If it already is I feel stupid but I have been assuming the triple star icon is the number of towers it effects and I have never seen it on a console pet).

Also Thanks for the Patch! IDC what others say, for a $15.00 game (which I got on sale for $10) I don't even expect patches unless something is corrupt.

Well Guardians don't attack. They do, however, have an area of effect up to 5 towers. That's why I included it in my post. The pet attack speed is irrelevant to Guardians is all.

[sirdudeawsome]

Well I'm excited to get somthing :) but I haven't been able to find in this thread a release date for the patch... Any one know when it comes out?

[Red_sky1]

I was just thinking What if all these patches can cause higher risk of getting corrupt file?

[tfmartinez]

Cant wait till they release it!

[muleyman]

Just curious, when those who don't care about broken products:

1- Go to the Market, do you buy expired foods, because they're on the shelf? And when you find out later you bought one by accident, do you eat it, because you're not a "child" but an adult?

2- Go to the Car Dealership of your choice, take the dealer's word on everything, and buy a car. 2 weeks later you find out car has issues, because you're an "adult" you keep the car?

3- Insert a thousand other scenarios.

My point is this, just because you get something that's not working properly, and because you think you're an adult, doesn't make everyone else childish for finding a problem with the product. Actually, it just makes you look ignorant, and biased. If you're fine with the product, good for you, but I'm not, and you don't see me trolling on forums, just because you don't agree with me. In fact, I edit/delete alot of posts, after I realize that I wrote it without thinking, or feeling like it didn't sound right. spamming a multitude of posts doesn't make you look cooler or smarter.

Bravo bro bravo, I completely agree.

[BADASSABE]

Hitmonchan Quick and easy Questions that have been ask by everyone.
Did The patch..
1 Raise The Mana Cap above 15 Million?

2 Include the one button upgrade?

3 Include direct trade on 360?

4 Raise the forge limit past 10 pages?

Yes/No Answers are okay.
Ether way the patch is BadAss

Did Hitmonchan ever answer these Q's, Over 19 pages in this thread, way too many to look though

[KrisZed]

Did Hitmonchan ever answer these Q's, Over 19 pages in this thread, way too many to look though

Not yet.

[leowtyx]

Better loot?
What does it mean? Does it means the perfect items will no longer be perfect because now there will drop higher stats same items, or simply better new weapon will appear?

Either way, the items we hold will be crappy.

[Zero_BladeZ]

Did Hitmonchan ever answer these Q's, Over 19 pages in this thread, way too many to look though

No, Hitmonchan hasn't answered any post since page 8. Your original post was on page 9.
I took the time and actually looked through all 19 pages( yes I'm that bored :P )

[RobBobtheAlien]

No, Hitmonchan hasn't answered any post since page 8. Your original post was on page 9.
I took the time and actually looked through all 19 pages( yes I'm that bored :P )

Thought he said keep asking questions and he would try to include as many answers as he could in the next digest?

[iamisom]

Thought he said keep asking questions and he would try to include as many answers as he could in the next digest?

Bingo. (http://forums.trendyent.com/showthread.php?45671-DunDef-Digest-2-8-2012-Discussion-Thread) :^)

[Iyashii]

Bingo. (http://forums.trendyent.com/showthread.php?45671-DunDef-Digest-2-8-2012-Discussion-Thread) :^)

And this is why you guys are awesome. That and you are doing an amazing job.

EDIT: Just finished reading the digest and all I can say is a-****ing-mazing.
I'm excited to play the console version again. Haven't been this excited since it released.

EDIT2: Also Hit, you may want to update the OP with the latest editions.

[iamisom]

And this is why you guys are awesome. That and you are doing an amazing job.

EDIT: Just finished reading the digest and all I can say is a-****ing-mazing.
I'm excited to play the console version again. Haven't been this excited since it released.

EDIT2: Also Hit, you may want to update the OP with the latest editions.

Edit: Updated!

[BADASSABE]

Edit: Updated!

I dont think This Thread 1st Post got Updated, please update HitmonChan

[iamisom]

I dont think This Thread 1st Post got Updated, please update HitmonChan

I see it there. Or maybe I'm seeing things.

[TheszNuts]

I see it there. Or maybe I'm seeing things.
I don't see a Krayt Junior hovering next to me, wanna help fix that tomorrow? :D

[rass253]

great news on the addition of 4 pages of items and cap from 15mil to 200mil.

But when will the patch come out? As i see it, it is not even worth playing the game till the patch comes out. Will have to refarm better stuff:)

But how long till we actually get it

[BADASSABE]

I see it there. Or maybe I'm seeing things.

Oh. I was looking for the Q&A to be added and didn't even notice the edit LOL
Great Stuff and Make Sure the DD Team Knows that. :)

[Corey]

This may sound homosexual but i freaking love you guys right now! <3 Hopefully people will stop complaining about not getting as much dlc and just play the game! :D

[zedrax]

What about a quick button to upgrade gear instead of holding down RT for 5 minutes!?!? :D

[oni0nbooty]

What about a quick button to upgrade gear instead of holding down RT for 5 minutes!?!? :D

*Clicks Like*

[wooden sentinel]

What about the apprentice broken weapons? :/

[Balorio]

What about the apprentice broken weapons? :/

His Weapons are broken too? I thought it was just his towers.

[CinderDragon77]

How about a buff to the tower boost ability on the monk along with an aura lifespan boost, making him more useful. His aura's really need more health unless you want to have to waste a character running around the map repairing all wave. And what is tower boost actually do? Mine even at like 200+(yes i was very bored.) it has a very negligible effect on towers.

[absta101]

'Invest all' option when upgrading

[CheckitOut!]

Any word on guardians getting multiple tower boost and animus getting multiple projectiles? I didn't see it but that doesn't mean it wasn't answered.

[Autec]

Yeah, i was asking about it on page 10, it was something I was looking forward to hearing about, but to no avail from what I've read.

[CheckitOut!]

I saw you posted on page 10. I originally asked on page 7 but had to edit it. By then no one probably noticed. Looks like we're in the same boat.

[Metal]

any date on when the patch goes live?

[Courtjeaster010]

NOOOOOOOO!!!!! and don't expect one!!!!!!! itll happen when dungeon defenders 2 is ready to release!!!!!!!

[Orko]

There should be something to do with the save, like finishing a wave, picking up items and dropping them should save. However selling an item shouldn't save.. Would that work hippochan?

[xNOxONEx]

wait so is the apprentice towers being fixed?

[Xx_Jumbie_xX]

I just want the patch now XD

[classic22]

wait so is the apprentice towers being fixed?

Read the first post :)

[CKGxJAY]

In the patch are hackers on 360 gone?

[rass253]

it should be 2 months from the last dlc right? so maybe 2 through 2 and a half weeks? Can you cram that all in 2 weeks if everyone is getting sick? make sure you pass the cleaning program where you work, wash your hands, clean anti germ killing sanitise from the windows to the walls.

You dont want team members down when your First Real Patch for console. Make it big and make it fun again :):mecha:

[Abyad]

“Any word on whether there will be auto attack on the consoles?” – echo98
“What about the “Step to attack” function?” – Iyashii
Those functionalities have to stay as they are, but potentially for future TU.

What a pity. Could you at least give us the option to swap L2/R2 with L1/R1? This will help a bit. But is it really that hard to implement an auto-attack function? :) Spamming R2 constantly - or any other button/trigger - is a real pain! I won't even bother making a weapon based Squire, Apprentice or Monk because of this. And I'm not sure why the Monk his second attack isn't auto-attack like the Huntress has. Oh well, I will keep it with one weapon based character then, the huntress.

[Xx_Jumbie_xX]

D: Hitmonchan, you said the patch was coming early this week D: D: Im started to get worried

But anyways, im still playing :)

[classic22]

D: Hitmonchan, you said the patch was coming early this week D: D: Im started to get worried

But anyways, im still playing :)

False. TE never said anything like that. They said it would be submitted soon for MS and Sony certification.

[Mizz-Man88]

are the bugs in MM getting addressed, like getting stuck in the spawn point and etc?

would also be nice to get the mana exploits resolved.

[Xx_Jumbie_xX]

False. TE never said anything like that. They said it would be submitted soon for MS and Sony certification.

True True, my mistake. Anyway I want the patch D: im getting mad now XD GOING CRAZY,
And im really looking foward to it, literally after School when Im at home i turn on the PS3 and pray the it says......

There's a new version for this game
Patch 2.00 ( or something).

[RadioGamer]

All of this looks really good, But is it too good to be true? On the video for Shards Of Eternia DLC you said it would be out in december. But nothing came out. And now you're saying this patch will be out. When will you release it. I think alot of people would be upset if you dont release it ASAP!

[Cladun]

All of this looks really good, But is it too good to be true? On the video for Shards Of Eternia DLC you said it would be out in december. But nothing came out. And now you're saying this patch will be out. When will you release it. I think alot of people would be upset if you dont release it ASAP!
What? I got my DLC in December. Anyway the shall release the patch when they release DLC 2.
P.S. Are you in the US region? If not they have not been released to the other places. Trendy is an American company.

[Orko]

I read something there would be a anitcheat (hacked) withen their game, I believe Hitmonchan mention about it. So what about the levels cause I notice in the leaderboards people have level 80 some 200 some 100000.

[yamahahornist]

I read something there would be a anitcheat (hacked) withen their game, I believe hippochan mention about it. So what about the levels cause I notice in the leaderboards people have level 80 some 200 some 100000.

lol i am pretty sure that they can corrupt a file with a lvl hack, its not like there hidding :) A lvl 2000 is going to stick out!

[TheszNuts]

I believe hippochan mention about it.
Something irks me when people not only typo someone's name, but butcher it in a bad way :/

[wooden sentinel]

Something irks me when people not only typo someone's name, but butcher it in a bad way :/


xD .....

[Orko]

Something irks me when people not only typo someone's name, but butcher it in a bad way :/

As your a xbox ambassador, as you well known about spelling mistake. It was a easy mistake for me it was, as that's how I spelled it. And you know this could lead in to a argument also being a xbox ambassador, so in future events you could of mention about his name in a nice way.

[Vanuber]

yay patch notes.


As your a xbox ambassador, as you well known about spelling mistake. It was a easy mistake for me it was, as that's how I spelled it. And you know this could lead in to a argument also being a xbox ambassador, so in future events you could of mention about his name in a nice way.

what does him being an XBL Ambassador have anything to do with it?

[TheszNuts]

It doesn't.

[XxLuDm4nxX]

it is possible to add an option in the rooms of live? an optional no-cheaters. 3 days I try to help or have fun on live, and all the time I eject them by. I disgust of live

[specialK]

Ok, sorry but I just woke up, so my brain is not at its full potential right now, and I ve might have missed reading it or understanding it. Also haven't been playing the game or being on the forums for quite some time, so it might have been mentioned
I read about the reduced wave for awarding a giraffe, but are the freezing issues on the ps3 addressed also, that occur after wave 17 on some people caused by the count on the bottom right screen?

[Jaws_420]

Yes, survival freezing is addressed.

[specialK]

Yes, survival freezing is addressed.

ok thanx
looking forward to it

[CinderDragon77]

I still think that monk aura's need the health boost, and for electrics not to trigger on shock immune enemies.
As i think about it, I think that the apprentice towers need some sort of buff, like a slight damage boost.(yes i know they fixed the fire rate issue.)
How about lowering the DU cost of the lightning tower, the electric aura, even with its issue, is still better in almost every way.
The DST also really need a buff, 8DU is way to much for a low health,low fire rate,high damage tower. Either lower the DU cost, or buff its damage/fire rate.

[AnyaMirskii]

Oh god... I had a dream last night the patch was here. T___T So sad to wake up....

[NLe]

Cant wait till we get the patch!!!!!!

[AnyaMirskii]

Cant wait till we get the patch!!!!!!

This is off topic but just noticed you set your location to 'Winterfell'... Song of Ice and Fire fan? :D (aka game of thrones)

Oh and, a while ago I also had another dream, that some guy went to go work at TE and helped them figure out how to get new characters and more dlc added to console with the current coding -sob- Why can't these things be truuuueee

[Carpetmonkey]

Noticed someones question in the digest, and I don't think it was answered fully...

"Will Survival drops get better? - AnyaMirskii
Yes, in accordance with the higher-quality loot noted above."

I know that myself and others are wondering more so as to whether the chances of receiving better loot is going to better scaled to the difficulty of the setting/wave your on?

That and I had heard a rumor that the random garbage drops out of enemies was going to be changed to not so garbage.

I know the general consensus among most console players is that the loot just doesn't get better when you hit later waves (wave 15+). And that even if it does marginally get better, that the effort and time to get there is not worth it. You'd be better of redoing wave 2 again and again with marginally less chance of getting a better drop.

Personally I love the challenge of doing mixed mode on the later levels and am currently working on a mistymire mix mode build that should come into itself with the new apprentice towers =D But, even when doing misty mix mode on wave 11-12, the drops are no better than on wave 2 on regular insane =.( And this really takes the wind out of my sails that would otherwise be happily farming top end gear on the hardest of hard settings...

I know this is a drawn out query, but I'm hoping to get a very educated, drawn out response from someone who truly knows the percent differences on the odds of good drops as they pertain to level difficulty.

[Jaws_420]

I must keep lobying for this...

More trophies/achievements!!!!!

[NLe]

This is off topic but just noticed you set your location to 'Winterfell'... Song of Ice and Fire fan? :D (aka game of thrones)

Oh and, a while ago I also had another dream, that some guy went to go work at TE and helped them figure out how to get new characters and more dlc added to console with the current coding -sob- Why can't these things be truuuueee


The books are sooooo good!!!

[LuCk3e87]

Are the guardians effecting more then one tower with this patch?

[lilghost13]

yea umm so when will we be getting the patch like can we get a date on when it would be put out to us on the consoles

[Cladun]

yea umm so when will we be getting the patch like can we get a date on when it would be put out to us on the consoles
There is no exact release date as of now but they already submitted the patch and it will release the same day as they release the DLC part 2. So expect sometime this month. If we are lucky. :D

[classic22]

There is no exact release date as of now but they already submitted the patch and it will release the same day as they release the DLC part 2. So expect sometime this month. If we are lucky. :D

Woah there!

Do not expect it this month. Just be patient. Maybe next month I would say.

[MissKate420]

Hi, I have been waiting for the new patch and updates... Disappointed to the point where I don't even want to play this great game because of the denial of new characters. The patch makes up for it a bit but when will it happen? My husband lost his chicken and tons of other things due to the glitches that he can never get again and I am hoping to have some sort of good news for him so we can play again... Please let us know when the patch is definite with the 360...

[scarss]

Hi, I have been waiting for the new patch and updates... Disappointed to the point where I don't even want to play this great game because of the denial of new characters. The patch makes up for it a bit but when will it happen? My husband lost his chicken and tons of other things due to the glitches that he can never get again and I am hoping to have some sort of good news for him so we can play again... Please let us know when the patch is definite with the 360...

You ask what we all want. it would be nice to have the realese date but i dont think its going to happen for a while. . .i dont mind if its not out for a while because i reakon if they rush it they could miss something out. do it oncedo it right i reakon. It does suk losing all your gear, i for one know what it is like to have it happen to you. . .just two weeks back my file corrupt and i lost everything from my chicken to my event weapons. alls i can say to help is if you really like the game like me youll keep playing keeping in mind that its only going to get better withthe patch and the dlc.

[absta101]

DLC 2 will come late for EU i presume.

[CaptBoxershorts]

Yes most likely since you JUST got tqftles part I

[jadedude]

so the patch is gunna come out in march most likely????

[Archangel]

Patience is a virtue, I am just glad that we are getting a patch, i have gotten more than my time and moneys worth out of this game and I am just glad that I can take a different approach to things when the apprentice towers are fixed.

[CaptBoxershorts]

Yes most likely but it is not official..