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knox
01-31-2012, 09:18 PM
Left Right Left Right Hawk

With proper timing you can squeeze all of this into one cycle. Currently hitting 6.9m dps this way.

pdboddy
02-01-2012, 12:00 AM
If you have a keyboard with programmable keys, a 0.400 second delay is all you need between mouse key presses to have it run smoothly. :D

Deign
02-01-2012, 12:03 AM
If you have a keyboard with programmable keys, a 0.400 second delay is all you need between mouse key presses to have it run smoothly. :D

Perfect, thank you =)
It only took 5 years, but my G15 keyboard will finally be useful for more than minor time saving things!

pdboddy
02-01-2012, 12:05 AM
Perfect, thank you =)
It only took 5 years, but my G15 keyboard will finally be useful for more than minor time saving things!

Hehe, well, after tonight I found myself wishing that the G keys on my G510 were placed differently. but, since they are in groups of six, they can emulate the WSAD/arrow keys plus a couple of key combo macros within easy reach.

mayaman79
02-01-2012, 01:19 AM
How do you priorities stats on the barb? what stances do you focus on?

knox
02-01-2012, 02:30 AM
After a bit more testing if you activate Hawk Stance the moment your 4th swing hits it is a significant dps boost. Before I was doing 7m, but with proper timing it's nearly 10m.

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/594709500161244909/00852A17331042524A441FADFCE6ECCA7F0EDD8F/

redink
02-01-2012, 02:54 AM
great, its bad enough i hit the right click for over 4 hours with the apprentice now I get to click both mouse click too!

knox
02-02-2012, 12:03 AM
Some juicy numbers

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/594709500161248274/33A32F777F1C5C7543C94F8A2A9FD17D9B6D3BD2/
http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/594709500182419307/F24433BAD9A4CD65AAFC74682752F8E25EF8C0A2/
http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/594709500182359604/AFB8970CCE9A439084E1989088F08F8902C34C74/

Vormehk
02-02-2012, 12:54 AM
So it is possible to get 1500+ in every stat?

knox
02-02-2012, 01:02 AM
I'm 1500+ in 5 stats, mostly because of the second weapon.

fluffycalico
02-02-2012, 01:07 AM
great, its bad enough i hit the right click for over 4 hours with the apprentice now I get to click both mouse click too!
Upcomming patch notes mention an auto attack that will even use the finisher when it can comming up.

Ramith
02-02-2012, 03:46 AM
so here i was thinking i was not doing all to awfull with my 900k combo or 3~ m with hawk and ur doing almost 10m X_X granted i dont have any mythical armor at all :x

Vormehk
02-02-2012, 10:03 AM
He's not doing 10, hes doing 22.

knox
02-02-2012, 03:24 PM
He's not doing 10, hes doing 22.

The 22m is with hero boost and it's pure burst damage, not sustained. If barbs could sustain 22m dps they'd be horribly broken. The 10m is pure burst also. Normal dps is 2.3-2.6m, much less than what an equally geared hunter does.

Vormehk
02-02-2012, 03:29 PM
That burst is 1.3-3.6m damage in a single combo in NM.

knox
02-02-2012, 03:40 PM
That is true, however after using Hawk you cannot dps in any form for 1 second followed by another 3 seconds before you can use Hawk again. My personal opinion is to up the damage on Hawk, remove the 1 second no action period, and bump the CD up from 3 second to 5. While it does increase the burst it doesn't leave you 1 second of no dps and the 2 second longer CD balances this out. This gives barbs competitive DPS, not just flashy burst damage.

Vormehk
02-02-2012, 05:19 PM
I still wonder if it will be better to use very fast weapons that can get off combos quicker or the slower weapons that can get a much higher damage rating.

knox
02-02-2012, 09:25 PM
I tested with two Katanas and two slow weapons. The slows were ahead. And since Hawk Strike scales with your weapon damage, no reason to use fast ones.

Vormehk
02-03-2012, 02:31 AM
Would that mean hammers might be viable for once, or would it be better to stick to demon swords?

knox
02-03-2012, 11:37 AM
I haven't tried hammers yet but I'd imagine they'd be too slow. My 10m burst requires extremely precise timing with slow swords as it already is.

Lionheart
02-03-2012, 02:35 PM
Not to be rude, but the numbers on your Hero are surprisingly high...

Vormehk
02-03-2012, 03:12 PM
We know, everyone knows, Trendy hasn't banned him yet, so assume legit. He's just dedicated to endgame farming.

TehOwn
02-03-2012, 07:01 PM
I'm sure he legitimately bought his hacked gear but I've seen wave 30 Nightmare HC drops and they're not good enough to get stats like that.

I see so many people saying, "No, my stuff is legit. I bought it from another player." Yea... Because that means it's not hacked...

Truth is that if you buy ANY gear, it's more likely to be hacked than not.

But please don't let me turn this into a hackers witch-hunt thread...

The Barbarian sucks because he's too much of a mana-*****. Stances should be free for christ sake. Atleast free to maintain ONE. Spamming your other skills is plenty of mana to be a drain. I'm hoping they'll rework him but, at the moment, I feel like I wish I'd saved my money.

knox
02-03-2012, 10:00 PM
Not to be rude, but the numbers on your Hero are surprisingly high...

2 weapons brah.

knox
02-03-2012, 10:03 PM
Not to be rude, but the numbers on your Hero are surprisingly high...

2 weapons brah. And if you really want me to prove I don't hacked hacked gear:

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/470860782121335993/EB6D7D3AF803590758ACC04E3CAC01FE3BCB49E7/

Totally makes sense to hack gear and not have all 4 resistances, rite?

iLLmatik
02-04-2012, 04:51 AM
2 weapons brah. /owned

Vormehk
02-04-2012, 09:28 AM
I defer to my previous post. I'm sure he's been looked into already and found to have legit gear. While it is very uncommon to see gear drop with all high end stats, RNG still permits it to happen.

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Edit: In the hammers scenario with them being too slow to make the timing fit, would it be viable to use tornado for the first 4 swings then turn it off for the finisher + hawk stance? I haven't played with tornado enough to know the cooldown on it.

I know the micro management would be terribly annoying, and would most likely require automation, but still curious.

knox
02-04-2012, 12:13 PM
I haven't used hammers as I have no high base and high^ ones to test, but I think with Tornado lowering your effective dps and being primarily a movement tool I wouldn't expect them to be that amazing. Plus Hawk already uses 120 mana as it is, Torando would be a bigger drain on your pool.